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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2022 13:26:09 GMT
"Pledge" -- "a solemn promise or undertaking". Really? There may be some broken pledges, but I have no wish to read about them via an opinionated unchecked individual on YouTube. I have too much respect for myself to be influenced in such a way. It seems that such doesn't bother you or your posts. So you are not interested in the opinions of journalists from the Guardian - who do you want to hear from? Is he just a guest offering his own opinions? Either way I don't need such accusations second hand. When it comes to such accusations against the leader of a party, I expect quotes and dates that can be checked. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 13:54:00 GMT
I'm sure he mostly uses it because you hate it and you can't get the red triangle out. So the sad mental deficiency of anyone that believes and posts it has nothing to do with it? No, it's the sad mental deficiency of anyone that bites each time EUSSR is posted, as if triggered. An adult would see it as baiting and ignore it. Anyway, in response to the OP. No. There is only a fabled majority to re-join and it is exactly that. Five election results say so. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 8, 2022 15:07:27 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 8, 2022 16:11:10 GMT
So you are not interested in the opinions of journalists from the Guardian - who do you want to hear from? Is he just a guest offering his own opinions? Either way I don't need such accusations second hand. When it comes to such accusations against the leader of a party, I expect quotes and dates that can be checked. If you believe all these pledges have been kept thats up to you - as I have highlighted many Labour members feel different.  |
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Post by Steve on Nov 8, 2022 16:14:21 GMT
Seeing as how the pledges are for a Labour government we don't have (yet) isn't it a No Shit Sherlock that they haven't been kept (yet)?
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 8, 2022 16:33:32 GMT
Them labour pledges are vote winners
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Post by sandypine on Nov 8, 2022 16:49:39 GMT
Them labour pledges are vote winners I think several are sure fired vote losers largely because we know how they will be enacted. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2022 22:11:59 GMT
Is he just a guest offering his own opinions? Either way I don't need such accusations second hand. When it comes to such accusations against the leader of a party, I expect quotes and dates that can be checked. If you believe all these pledges have been kept thats up to you - as I have highlighted many Labour members feel different. Thank you. His pledges were an indication of the improvements he wanted to make and the direction he wanted to take the country in after he and the Labour party were elected to govern. When did he say that he had abandoned them ? |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 8, 2022 22:15:53 GMT
If you believe all these pledges have been kept thats up to you - as I have highlighted many Labour members feel different. Thank you. His pledges were an indication of the improvements he wanted to make and the direction he wanted to take the country in after he and the Labour party were elected to govern. When did he say that he had abandoned them ? I've already linked to two articles pointing those out. If you choose to believe something else thats fine - just accept that many Labour Party members disagree. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2022 22:35:46 GMT
Thank you. His pledges were an indication of the improvements he wanted to make and the direction he wanted to take the country in after he and the Labour party were elected to govern. When did he say that he had abandoned them ? I've already linked to two articles pointing those out. If you choose to believe something else thats fine - just accept that many Labour Party members disagree. Don't be silly, he has no need to drop any let alone all ten at this point in time. Someone somewhere is telling porkies. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 8, 2022 22:43:06 GMT
Watch him squirm...  |
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Post by see2 on Nov 9, 2022 12:52:57 GMT
Watch him squirm... __"The series of promises saw Starmer vow to “work shoulder to shoulder with trade unions” – before he banned his shadow cabinet members from appearing on picket lines months later."__ A typical biased approach. Working shoulder to shoulder is not and just would not /could not be a vow to back every strike. It means to treat the Unions with respect with no intention of adding to the restrictions. Manifestoes are not and cannot be absolute promises, because the state of the country and the state of the economy (as alluded to by Starmer in the video) at the time of arrival to office is completely unknown. The people who so desperately need to exaggerate a denigrate the opposition should do the squirming if for no other reason than their dishonesty can and has in the past done damage to the country. |
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