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Post by see2 on Nov 7, 2022 15:22:12 GMT
Sorry but I can't take that rambling idot seriously. Is that the best you can do? And that is precisley why you wallow in your own ignorance, No it isn't it shows why people like yourself are so far away from reality when you take notice of any old crap posted by any unknown entity on YouTube. Your standards are as low as they can get. "Morny Stannat"  |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 7, 2022 15:27:40 GMT
And that is precisley why you wallow in your own ignorance, when you take notice of any old crap posted by any unknown entity on YouTube. Your standards are as low as they can get. "Morny Stannat" It is people like you that are far away from reality. It must be getting very lonely for you on planet zog. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 7, 2022 15:38:39 GMT
Yea but all them lies and yet stamer and the labour party still lead in the opinion polls to lead the next Government. So that's alright then? And to hell with integrity and honesty? Besides which. Labour's large poll lead is very soft and based largely upon one effective policy only, namely not being the Tories. The flaw here is that in the longer term success for Labour is in the hands of the Tories and depends upon the latter continuing to be seen as hopelessly crap. If they begin to get their act together, Labour's poll lead will start shrinking dramatically because it is built on very little in policy terms Yea corbyn had such great policys but it lead to the worse labour vote in 60+ years. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 15:55:20 GMT
So that's alright then? And to hell with integrity and honesty? Besides which. Labour's large poll lead is very soft and based largely upon one effective policy only, namely not being the Tories. The flaw here is that in the longer term success for Labour is in the hands of the Tories and depends upon the latter continuing to be seen as hopelessly crap. If they begin to get their act together, Labour's poll lead will start shrinking dramatically because it is built on very little in policy terms Yea corbyn had such great policys but it lead to the worse labour vote in 60+ years. The 2017 policies were very popular according to polling. Largely on the strength of them it nearly pulled off a shock result by overturning a 20 point deficit. Labour lost that election in spite of those policies, not because of them. The main reasons for their defeat being Brexit, open disunity from the party's right, including much of the PLP, and the unpopularity of Corby himself amongst tabloid reading demographics. And even in 2019 Labour got more votes than at any election since 2001. It was Brexit and the unity of the right in 2019 - along with the vagaries and distorting effects of FPTP - which resulted in such a heavy defeat in 2019. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 7, 2022 16:34:09 GMT
Sorry but I can't take that rambling idot seriously. Is that the best you can do? And that is precisley why you wallow in your own ignorance, If you don't realise that Owen Jones is a sad joke of a pretend journalist then it's you that's ignorant. Jones with his praise for Venezuela's marxist dictators probably believes Corbyn was too right wing. So of course he'd throw shit at Starmer for not wanting to impose Marxism on the UK. Only a fool would take Own's bile seriously. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 7, 2022 17:10:09 GMT
Sorry but I can't take that rambling idot seriously. Is that the best you can do? Have a petition 10 Broken Pledges |
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Post by patman post on Nov 7, 2022 17:15:58 GMT
How can an opposition do anything meaningful with any policy or pledge until it has power…?
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 7, 2022 18:16:18 GMT
How can an opposition do anything meaningful with any policy or pledge until it has power…? Well you can keep a policy for longer than the 5 minutes it took you to be elected on before ditching it.. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 7, 2022 18:37:57 GMT
And that is precisley why you wallow in your own ignorance, If you don't realise that Owen Jones is a sad joke of a pretend journalist then it's you that's ignorant. Jones with his praise for Venezuela's marxist dictators probably believes Corbyn was too right wing. So of course he'd throw shit at Starmer for not wanting to impose Marxism on the UK. Only a fool would take Own's bile seriously. According to you anyone who speaks out about the EUSSR or lefties you deem as ignorant. Like I say your own biased notoriety proceeds you. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 7, 2022 23:37:24 GMT
If you don't realise that Owen Jones is a sad joke of a pretend journalist then it's you that's ignorant. Jones with his praise for Venezuela's marxist dictators probably believes Corbyn was too right wing. So of course he'd throw shit at Starmer for not wanting to impose Marxism on the UK. Only a fool would take Own's bile seriously. According to you anyone who speaks out about the EUSSR or lefties you deem as ignorant. Like I say your own biased notoriety proceeds you. Anyone that believes in this supposed 'EUSSR' has as much credibility as those that believe pigs fly or there are fairies at the bottom of their garden |
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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2022 8:51:52 GMT
How can an opposition do anything meaningful with any policy or pledge until it has power…? Well you can keep a policy for longer than the 5 minutes it took you to be elected on before ditching it.. And one could comment on a practical level instead of continually posting 'one upmanship' posts. Such posts tend to reflect the worst of the Tory press attitudes. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2022 8:59:26 GMT
Sorry but I can't take that rambling idot seriously. Is that the best you can do? Have a petition 10 Broken Pledges"Pledge" -- "a solemn promise or undertaking". Really? There may be some broken pledges, but I have no wish to read about them via an opinionated unchecked individual on YouTube. I have too much respect for myself to be influenced in such a way. It seems that such doesn't bother you or your posts. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 10:11:33 GMT
[Anyone that believes in this supposed 'EUSSR' has as much credibility as those that believe pigs fly or there are fairies at the bottom of their garden I'm sure he mostly uses it because you hate it and you can't get the red triangle out. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 8, 2022 11:20:09 GMT
"Pledge" -- "a solemn promise or undertaking". Really? There may be some broken pledges, but I have no wish to read about them via an opinionated unchecked individual on YouTube. I have too much respect for myself to be influenced in such a way. It seems that such doesn't bother you or your posts. So you are not interested in the opinions of journalists from the Guardian - who do you want to hear from? |
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Post by Steve on Nov 8, 2022 12:21:02 GMT
[Anyone that believes in this supposed 'EUSSR' has as much credibility as those that believe pigs fly or there are fairies at the bottom of their garden I'm sure he mostly uses it because you hate it and you can't get the red triangle out. So the sad mental deficiency of anyone that believes and posts it has nothing to do with it? |
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