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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2023 19:32:41 GMT
Lockdown was a precaution NOT instigated by politicians, most of whom know F all about epidemiology or infection control. Lockdowns across the world were instigated by men and women of science.
Common sense SHOULD tell you that if an elderly person is isolated from close human contact, then that person is far less likely to contract Covid19 which could kill that person. Same applies to sick, ill or vulnerable people.
Lockdowns prevented people from contracting Covid, they prevented many deaths, and they held back and slowed the rapid spread of Covid until a vaccine was produced.
To put it in a nutshell - I would not trust Boris Johnson as far as I could throw him, but I do know for certain that a man like Chris Whitty knows what he is talking about.
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Post by Handyman on Jun 6, 2023 20:14:03 GMT
Covid has mutated people are still being hospitalized and it is still killing about 30 people a week, It's negligible when 10,000 people die each week in England. Deaths are about 3.4% above the average. It's time we stopped focussing on the 30 and started focussing on the 322 excess deaths each week It depends if one of the 30 is a relative or a friend of yours that is one of the thirty or not , of course people die all the time some very young some very old , it is luck of the draw no matter what we do or no matter how hard the NHS try |
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Post by Handyman on Jun 6, 2023 20:16:43 GMT
Covid has mutated people are still being hospitalized and it is still killing about 30 people a week, Or is it reactions to earlier vaccinations, guess we will never know. There is a lot we don't know about was it ever any different it may takes years to find out and not just about Covid |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2023 20:20:56 GMT
It's negligible when 10,000 people die each week in England. Deaths are about 3.4% above the average. It's time we stopped focussing on the 30 and started focussing on the 322 excess deaths each weekIt depends if one of the 30 is a relative or a friend of yours that is one of the thirty or not , of course people die all the time some very young some very old , it is luck of the draw no matter what we do or no matter how hard the NHS try So, do you think the 30 Covid deaths are more important than the 322 excess deaths? If so, you've really missed my point in bold. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 6, 2023 20:31:46 GMT
It depends if one of the 30 is a relative or a friend of yours that is one of the thirty or not , of course people die all the time some very young some very old , it is luck of the draw no matter what we do or no matter how hard the NHS try So, do you think the 30 Covid deaths are more important than the 322 excess deaths? If so, you've really missed my point in bold. Are you claiming that there are 322 excess deaths that are a direct result of paying too much attention being directed to Covid? |
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Post by see2 on Jun 6, 2023 20:35:06 GMT
No, I just made my point and showed 3 examples of people ignoring medical experts for political gain. Two of whom were booted out of office at the next opportunity showing it was not a successful political strategy in the end anyway. No, you just ignored facts to make a political non-point - exactly as you accused others of doing. And now you're adopting the increasingly common lefty trait of repeating the same proven untruths on an endless loop as if they'll somehow come true through repetition. Goodness me, you mean they are learning the bad habits of Righties after all these years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2023 21:02:17 GMT
So, do you think the 30 Covid deaths are more important than the 322 excess deaths? If so, you've really missed my point in bold. Are you claiming that there are 322 excess deaths that are a direct result of paying too much attention being directed to Covid? No, but it is one explanation. I'm just quoting government figures from April 2023. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 6, 2023 21:09:32 GMT
Are you claiming that there are 322 excess deaths that are a direct result of paying too much attention being directed to Covid? No, but it is one explanation. I'm just quoting government figures from April 2023. Do you have any information on the annual reduced funding level of the NHS since 2010? Just asking. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 6, 2023 21:10:44 GMT
Lockdown was a precaution NOT instigated by politicians, most of whom know F all about epidemiology or infection control. Lockdowns across the world were instigated by men and women of science. Common sense SHOULD tell you that if an elderly person is isolated from close human contact, then that person is far less likely to contract Covid19 which could kill that person. Same applies to sick, ill or vulnerable people. Lockdowns prevented people from contracting Covid, they prevented many deaths, and they held back and slowed the rapid spread of Covid until a vaccine was produced. To put it in a nutshell - I would not trust Boris Johnson as far as I could throw him, but I do know for certain that a man like Chris Whitty knows what he is talking about. Only a total prick would beleive anything whitty has to say. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2023 22:12:27 GMT
Lockdown was a precaution NOT instigated by politicians, most of whom know F all about epidemiology or infection control. Lockdowns across the world were instigated by men and women of science. Common sense SHOULD tell you that if an elderly person is isolated from close human contact, then that person is far less likely to contract Covid19 which could kill that person. Same applies to sick, ill or vulnerable people. Lockdowns prevented people from contracting Covid, they prevented many deaths, and they held back and slowed the rapid spread of Covid until a vaccine was produced. To put it in a nutshell - I would not trust Boris Johnson as far as I could throw him, but I do know for certain that a man like Chris Whitty knows what he is talking about. Only a total prick would beleive anything whitty has to say. It goes to show what a complete prick you are - Chris Whitty is a very highly qualified epidemiologist, a scientist, a man who is highly respected. You on the other hand would rather support a man who knows absolutely fuck all, a liar, a cheat, a man with no integrity what so ever (proven) - Boris Johnsion. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 6, 2023 22:17:53 GMT
The lockdowns were ineffective because:
1) We were too slow to lockdown.
2) We did not put a proper pause on foreign travel, in or out, in response to the virus.
3) There was no quarantining.
4) We were too quick to drop the safety measures and ended up in a yo yo situation.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 6, 2023 22:29:02 GMT
Only a total prick would beleive anything whitty has to say. It goes to show what a complete prick you are - Chris Whitty is a very highly qualified epidemiologist, a scientist, a man who is highly respected. You on the other hand would rather support a man who knows absolutely fuck all, a liar, a cheat, a man with no integrity what so ever (proven) - Boris Johnsion. Just name one thing that your hero whitty got correct fiddler? FFS if we had of carried on listening to that uniformed arsehole we would still be in frigging lockdown. Which BTW sir kneel-a-lot supported.
EDIT whitty is just another lefty woke arsehole. He is not respected and what bit of integrity and respect he had in the field of science was lost over his bullshit over covid.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 6, 2023 22:33:49 GMT
Are you claiming that there are 322 excess deaths that are a direct result of paying too much attention being directed to Covid? No, but it is one explanation. I'm just quoting government figures from April 2023. I wonder how many are dying now caused by our lefty woke NHS management? The waiting lists we have now will never be depleted. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 6, 2023 22:35:08 GMT
Lockdown was a precaution NOT instigated by politicians, most of whom know F all about epidemiology or infection control. Lockdowns across the world were instigated by men and women of science. Common sense SHOULD tell you that if an elderly person is isolated from close human contact, then that person is far less likely to contract Covid19 which could kill that person. Same applies to sick, ill or vulnerable people. Lockdowns prevented people from contracting Covid, they prevented many deaths, and they held back and slowed the rapid spread of Covid until a vaccine was produced. To put it in a nutshell - I would not trust Boris Johnson as far as I could throw him, but I do know for certain that a man like Chris Whitty knows what he is talking about.
You know fuck all for certain nor anything like. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 6, 2023 22:38:20 GMT
Lockdown was a precaution NOT instigated by politicians, most of whom know F all about epidemiology or infection control. Lockdowns across the world were instigated by men and women of science. Common sense SHOULD tell you that if an elderly person is isolated from close human contact, then that person is far less likely to contract Covid19 which could kill that person. Same applies to sick, ill or vulnerable people. Lockdowns prevented people from contracting Covid, they prevented many deaths, and they held back and slowed the rapid spread of Covid until a vaccine was produced. To put it in a nutshell - I would not trust Boris Johnson as far as I could throw him, but I do know for certain that a man like Chris Whitty knows what he is talking about.
And he makes sure evryone else knows it...
Dunno why he still persists we all know what he is anyway. |
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