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Post by buccaneer on Jun 6, 2023 12:05:28 GMT
Did Sweden lockdown?
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 6, 2023 12:08:43 GMT
Yes but it was mainly voluntary. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 6, 2023 12:12:34 GMT
If we regard Covid 19 as a test run for a far more deadly pandemic we failed.
People refused to social distance, wear masks or even get vaccinated.
We are doomed.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 6, 2023 12:24:59 GMT
If we regard Covid 19 as a test run for a far more deadly pandemic we failed. People refused to social distance, wear masks or even get vaccinated. We are doomed. Let me tell you, it will be every man for himself, if and when such a occasion arises, you don't think people will stick to rules and regulations if they are in fear for their lives, if you announced a Russian nuclear missile was heading to the UK do you honestly think anything the government or WHO put in place will really matter, I think the next pandemic people will just take their chances. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2023 12:26:04 GMT
Lockdown denial conspiracy.😂
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 6, 2023 12:29:10 GMT
If we regard Covid 19 as a test run for a far more deadly pandemic we failed. People refused to social distance, wear masks or even get vaccinated. We are doomed. Let me tell you, it will be every man for himself, if and when such a occasion arises, you don't think people will stick to rules and regulations if they are in fear for their lives, if you announced a Russian nuclear missile was heading to the UK do you honestly think anything the government or WHO put in place will really matter, I think the next pandemic people will just take their chances. I don't doubt it which means anything we've learned from this pandemic will be lost and experts will continue to be vilified for political gain. We are doomed. |
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Post by Orac on Jun 6, 2023 12:37:01 GMT
The mainstream media and social media complex went full-on censorship mode, effectively allowing only one view and perspective by deleting detractors
This wasn't enough?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 6, 2023 12:45:26 GMT
If we regard Covid 19 as a test run for a far more deadly pandemic we failed. People refused to social distance, wear masks or even get vaccinated. We are doomed. OTOH, if we view it as a test run for 1984 style social control then it was far more effective. Most people complied until they realised it was bunk. Fortunately, increasing numbers of people can now see right through it. So maybe we're not doomed after all. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 6, 2023 12:49:20 GMT
I don't doubt it which means anything we've learned from this pandemic will be lost and experts will continue to be vilified for political gain. We are doomed. Nope, what we've learned is that the "experts" were wrong. Yet again. I doubt many will forget that. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 6, 2023 12:53:40 GMT
If we regard Covid 19 as a test run for a far more deadly pandemic we failed. People refused to social distance, wear masks or even get vaccinated. We are doomed. OTOH, if we view it as a test run for 1984 style social control then it was far more effective. Fortunately, increasing numbers of people can see right through it. So maybe we're not doomed after all. As if by magic my point about people ignoring experts for political gain is proved within minutes. The virus, of course, cared not which particular team it's victims were on and wet it's metaphorical pants at the thought of political opportunists like Bolsonaro and Trump. Fortunately the citizens of Brazil and the USA knew exactly what to do with the dead weight at their helms at their next elections. |
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Post by bancroft on Jun 6, 2023 12:55:37 GMT
Covid was basically a world wide experiment to see how the masses would conform to control, they wanted to test how far they could push us, at the beginning when they convinced us we'd all be dropping like flies, and we'd be walking over dead bodies in the roads, we all crapped our pants. Then as the days, week, months went by most of us were clicking something wasn't making sense, no mounds of dead bodies lying all over the place, to all intense and purpose nothing seemed any different than before the Covid pandemic, the only thing we noticed was mask wearing and social distancing, apart from that it was just people who already had underlying health issues, people in care homes, and the elderly who are vulnerable to illness anyway. A lot more people fell ill because of the consequences of Covid, like not being able to get hospital appointments, and GPs locking themselves away at home, many more deaths were attributed to those factors than Covid itself. Yes it certainly was project fear, I could understand a 2 month lock-down initially and once seen that the death rate was low should just have re-opened everything. Yet the money machine had started with untested vaccines (by normal standards) with draconian shopping instructions. I do think the virus was dangerous to a small group on multiple meds or health compromised like in care homes yet for the rest was not too much of an issue, yet the money machine was in full swing for certain corporates while the rest of the world suffered. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 6, 2023 12:57:55 GMT
OTOH, if we view it as a test run for 1984 style social control then it was far more effective. Fortunately, increasing numbers of people can see right through it. So maybe we're not doomed after all. As if by magic my point about people ignoring experts for political gain is proved within minutes. The virus, of course, cared not which particular team it's victims were on and wet it's metaphorical pants at the thought of political opportunists like Bolsonaro and Trump. Fortunately the citizens of Brazil and the USA knew exactly what to do with the dead weight at their helms at their next elections. LOL! You just trolled yourself there. 🤣 |
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Post by Orac on Jun 6, 2023 12:58:28 GMT
I don't doubt it which means anything we've learned from this pandemic will be lost and experts will continue to be vilified for political gain. We are doomed. Nope, what we've learned is that the "experts" were wrong. They often are in matters that aren't a narrow well worn furrow. They can also be dishonest One big dishonesty perpetrated by the media is that experts were doing more than adding educated guesswork for many of the important issues. Remember "Follow the science"? It was 70% bunk sloganeering. The science itself didn't really get you very far in deciding what to do |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 6, 2023 13:06:48 GMT
As if by magic my point about people ignoring experts for political gain is proved within minutes. The virus, of course, cared not which particular team it's victims were on and wet it's metaphorical pants at the thought of political opportunists like Bolsonaro and Trump. Fortunately the citizens of Brazil and the USA knew exactly what to do with the dead weight at their helms at their next elections. LOL! You just trolled yourself there. 🤣 No, I just made my point and showed 3 examples of people ignoring medical experts for political gain. Two of whom were booted out of office at the next opportunity showing it was not a successful political strategy in the end anyway. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 6, 2023 13:12:22 GMT
Yes it certainly was project fear, I could understand a 2 month lock-down initially and once seen that the death rate was low should just have re-opened everything. Yet the money machine had started with untested vaccines (by normal standards) with draconian shopping instructions. I do think the virus was dangerous to a small group on multiple meds or health compromised like in care homes yet for the rest was not too much of an issue, yet the money machine was in full swing for certain corporates while the rest of the world suffered. Totally agree. I was a keyworker throughout the pandemic and carried on going into London every day. Initially, I had a genuine fear for myself and colleagues, that the virus would go through us like the proverbial dose of salts, and I supported lockdown for those able to do so. But after a few months it became clear that the virus wasn't that deadly after all and it was clear that a relaxation of the rules would be in order, with the vulnerable locking down and everyone else getting back to work. Hence I changed my opinion in light of experience. Something which certain others seem unable to manage. But there is a lesson to be learned for future pandemics and it's that overuse of lockdowns becomes counterproductive. |
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