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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 19:55:52 GMT
I watch it live on Youtube, there are no ads.  I think what Red is saying here is that Mrs R won't let him have a TV in the shed. LOL 'the shed' very good. As it happens I do have a TV in the shed, but like I said, it's rarely switched on. Well to be more accurate, I switch it on most days to go through the listings, I then switch if off. As I'm sure anyone with an IQ in double figures would. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 19:59:37 GMT
Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaa superb, a rattled outraged lefty issuing girly threats on an anonymous forum. LOL, what a pillock. Einy I sense you have been told this before, many times before; 'Must do better'. Now raise your game there's a good girl. I've just watched ten minutes of GB 'News'. How do you do it, Red? Their panel of 'guests' had some of their own presenters! The camera panned out, and one of the guests was picking her teeth. They went into an ad-break, promising to return with a discussion of how 'Millennial Marxist students have been let down by universities' (Jesus Christ!). Anyway, let's see if the Woke-busting GB News was prepared to swap it principles for hard-cash during the ad-break. There were four ads: 1) Judi Dench giving instructions to a black female James Bond type character as she furiously races about; 2) Ad for Jet2Holidays - Filipino (?) woman drags a camera around a holiday resort; 3) A white couple running through some 3D graphics, advertising Sky News. 4) Ad for Google Pixel. Starts with a female football team of all colours. Camera focusses in on a black player, before a scene change to a black sports presenter. Looks to me like GB News is happy to be as woke as everyone else when there's a few quid in it for them.  I see, you claim to have watched ten minutes of one programme, and from that ten minutes you have formed an opinion of the entire channel. Kinda says it all tbh. Einy, Stick with the BBC. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 3, 2023 20:02:29 GMT
I think what Red is saying here is that Mrs R won't let him have a TV in the shed. LOL 'the shed' very good. As it happens I do have a TV in the shed, but like I said, it's rarely switched on. Well to be more accurate, I switch it on most days to go through the listings, I then switch if off. As I'm sure anyone with an IQ in double figures would. I'm currently tuned in to the F1 qualifying eagerly awaiting Dr Alice Roberts' new series on ancient Egypt. I've got a box of Kleenex at the ready in case of any unfortunate seepage. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 20:06:08 GMT
LOL 'the shed' very good. As it happens I do have a TV in the shed, but like I said, it's rarely switched on. Well to be more accurate, I switch it on most days to go through the listings, I then switch if off. As I'm sure anyone with an IQ in double figures would. I'm currently tuned in to the F1 qualifying eagerly awaiting Dr Alice Roberts' new series on ancient Egypt. I've got a box of Kleenex at the ready in case of any unfortunate seepage. Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa that's fekin disgraceful. But in the case of Dr Alice Throberts, perfectly understandable. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 3, 2023 20:23:08 GMT
You say you're sure but how do you know, have you taken a poll? No, I'm working from the premise that black people are the same as everyone else. If they are the same as everyone else then why are we expected and encouraged to value diversity? We have to value diversity because apparently different people bring different things to the table. Valuing diversity is not just an aspiration it has the coercive force of law for public bodies and the overall expectation on private companies to take on board the same procedures. |
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Post by Ripley on Jun 3, 2023 21:09:51 GMT
Ah-hah! It appears to be a quote mixed in with some paraphrasing. Mystery solved. Not Shah's exact words. That makes more sense. Thanks for finding the links. I thought Shah was a woman. Turns out he is a man. The Guardian puts it in quotes so they do appear to be his exact words, or are at least reported to be. The mystery is not solved as deracinated seems to imply that the uprooting was not voluntary and that the 'look test' determines culture. I wasn't commenting on the issue itself, but in the way Shah's presumably written comments were quoted. It didn't make sense to me that he would choose a lofty word such as deracinated and then put it in a run-on sentence. It caused me to wonder if he was misquoted. Both Red’s post and the Guardian are saying the same thing. The difference is in the way they are saying it. Whereas the Guardian makes it clear where they are paraphrasing, Red’s post makes it look as if Shah wrote a run-on sentence. It's entirely possible, of course, that Shah's words were not written but spoken, in which case Shah is not responsible for the run-on sentence. Red`s post: Quote Broadcasters have overcompensated for a lack of people from ethnic minorities by putting too many black and Asian faces on TV, this has led to a world of deracinated coloured people flickering across our screens - to the irritation of many viewers and the embarrassment of the very people such actions are meant to appease. The Guardian: Broadcasters have overcompensated for their lack of executives from ethnic minorities by putting too many black and Asian faces onscreen, a leading television industry figure said last night. Samir Shah, a member of the BBC`s board of directors, said this had led to a “world of deracinated coloured people flickering across our screens - to the irritation of many viewers and the embarrassment of the very people such actions are meant to appease”. Much ado about nothing, I know. It just jumped off the page at me and seemed an incongruous way for a BBC director to write. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 21:17:42 GMT
You say you're sure but how do you know, have you taken a poll? No, I'm working from the premise that black people are the same as everyone else. Sandy Pine makes a very good point. If black people are, as you say, the same as everyone else, why do lefties kneel for BLM? Why do we have diversity quotas? Why are white people discriminated against? Are you sure we're all the same? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 21:25:10 GMT
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 3, 2023 21:28:14 GMT
"No, I'm working from the premise that black people are the same as everyone else." One big difference is that everyone else doesn't suffer from 'race-based hair discrimination'. But wait. What if you're a ginger?!? |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 21:40:53 GMT
No, I'm working from the premise that black people are the same as everyone else. If they are the same as everyone else then why are we expected and encouraged to value diversity? We have to value diversity because apparently different people bring different things to the table. Valuing diversity is not just an aspiration it has the coercive force of law for public bodies and the overall expectation on private companies to take on board the same procedures. I don't think anyone expects anything of you, Sandy. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 21:43:43 GMT
"No, I'm working from the premise that black people are the same as everyone else." One big difference is that everyone else doesn't suffer from 'race-based hair discrimination'. But wait. What if you're a ginger?!? This is too profound. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 3, 2023 21:44:48 GMT
The Guardian puts it in quotes so they do appear to be his exact words, or are at least reported to be. The mystery is not solved as deracinated seems to imply that the uprooting was not voluntary and that the 'look test' determines culture. I wasn't commenting on the issue itself, but in the way Shah's presumably written comments were quoted. It didn't make sense to me that he would choose a lofty word such as deracinated and then put it in a run-on sentence. It caused me to wonder if he was misquoted. Both Red’s post and the Guardian are saying the same thing. The difference is in the way they are saying it. Whereas the Guardian makes it clear where they are paraphrasing, Red’s post makes it look as if Shah wrote a run-on sentence. It's entirely possible, of course, that Shah's words were not written but spoken, in which case Shah is not responsible for the run-on sentence. Red`s post: Quote Broadcasters have overcompensated for a lack of people from ethnic minorities by putting too many black and Asian faces on TV, this has led to a world of deracinated coloured people flickering across our screens - to the irritation of many viewers and the embarrassment of the very people such actions are meant to appease. The Guardian: Broadcasters have overcompensated for their lack of executives from ethnic minorities by putting too many black and Asian faces onscreen, a leading television industry figure said last night. Samir Shah, a member of the BBC`s board of directors, said this had led to a “world of deracinated coloured people flickering across our screens - to the irritation of many viewers and the embarrassment of the very people such actions are meant to appease”. Much ado about nothing, I know. It just jumped off the page at me and seemed an incongruous way for a BBC director to write. Yes I see that however it is the selection of the word deracinated, and even if he had used the more prosaic uprooted, still. places a nuance of being forced to leave a previous native environment. It is a strange way to refer to a cohort that is both here by choice and has many trying to get here by any means possible. It may be more relevant to the US black population but it jars on reading when referring to ethnic minorities in the UK. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 21:45:56 GMT
No, I'm working from the premise that black people are the same as everyone else. Sandy Pine makes a very good point. If black people are, as you say, the same as everyone else, why do lefties kneel for BLM? Why do we have diversity quotas? Why are white people discriminated against? Are you sure we're all the same? I don't know anything about BLM. I imagine they kneel because black men were being disproportionately killed by the US police. Floyd's death was caught on camera. The statistics are out there. You belong to a minority group, Red. Stand up against this sort of thing or they might come for the Gammons next. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 3, 2023 21:48:35 GMT
If they are the same as everyone else then why are we expected and encouraged to value diversity? We have to value diversity because apparently different people bring different things to the table. Valuing diversity is not just an aspiration it has the coercive force of law for public bodies and the overall expectation on private companies to take on board the same procedures. I don't think anyone expects anything of you, Sandy. They do not have to however there are many who are tied into the valuing diversity mindset as officially promoted. I was wondering how that could be reconciled with your belief there is no difference? Still if you wish not to address the point fair enough, just throwing a thought into the mix. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 21:50:08 GMT
I don't think anyone expects anything of you, Sandy. They do not have to however there are many who are tied into the valuing diversity mindset as officially promoted. I was wondering how that could be reconciled with your belief there is no difference? Still if you wish not to address the point fair enough, just throwing a thought into the mix. There's no difference. A working class black man has more in common with a working class white man than either has with someone from an upper-middle class background. Stop being ridiculous. |
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