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Post by andrewbrown on May 22, 2023 8:50:02 GMT
When was that, about 1600 or so? It is nonsense like that statement that eggs on the black people and gives them a sense of grievance that doesn't help anyone, least of all them. 1970s. No blacks, Irish or dogs was commonplace. |
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Post by Dan Dare on May 22, 2023 8:55:23 GMT
There is much anecdotal evidence of such things but very little, if any, actual documentary evidence.
"A plea to Guardian readers. If No Irish signs were as common as is asserted, there should be plenty of them remaining in private collections, local archives and the like. Twenty years ago I tried without success to find one and had to fake one for a book cover. Can we please see some?"
Professor Steve Bruce
University of Aberdeen
The Guardian, 28.10.15
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Post by Bentley on May 22, 2023 8:55:39 GMT
Some people are just so gullible, and fall for it Its an advertising gimmick designed to draw attention to the play, and white people are not barred from attending. The adverts state that white people are "ADVISED" not to attend ( its called "tongue in cheeck" ) Its a reversal of what was once commonplace in this country, when black people were barred from pubs, bars, cafes, boarding houses and from applying for jobs. That must be the lamest attempt at gaslighting this week. The next time a theatre production asks black people not to attend because they don’t want to be under the ‘ black gaze (but black people are not actually barred )they would have your full support , wouldn’t they? We both know that that would be acceptable. Everyone else has come a long way since the 1970s . It’s a pity the people who accept racism against whites have not . |
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Post by Bentley on May 22, 2023 8:58:19 GMT
When was that, about 1600 or so? It is nonsense like that statement that eggs on the black people and gives them a sense of grievance that doesn't help anyone, least of all them. 1970s. No blacks, Irish or dogs was commonplace. Evidence ? |
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Post by sheepy on May 22, 2023 9:05:30 GMT
When was that, about 1600 or so? It is nonsense like that statement that eggs on the black people and gives them a sense of grievance that doesn't help anyone, least of all them. 1970s. No blacks, Irish or dogs was commonplace. Ah I see its seen as a revenge then. |
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Post by Bentley on May 22, 2023 9:06:57 GMT
1970s. No blacks, Irish or dogs was commonplace. Ah I see its seen as a revenge then. It’s a desperate attempt to justify racism against white people . |
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Post by sheepy on May 22, 2023 9:10:38 GMT
Ah I see its seen as a revenge then. It’s a desperate attempt to justify racism against white people . Little Adolf will love that one. |
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Post by see2 on May 22, 2023 9:15:50 GMT
When was that, about 1600 or so? It is nonsense like that statement that eggs on the black people and gives them a sense of grievance that doesn't help anyone, least of all them. It was SATIRE based upon American experiences and observations. Satire: NOUN the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues:Based upon the original anger aimed at UK footballers 'taking the knee' there might have been a riot if the 'wrong' people turned up to watch a satirical show from a Black American perspective. People like those with fixed opinions who are very quick to point the finger of racism at others, and who always see the worse in events and happenings. |
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Post by Orac on May 22, 2023 9:19:10 GMT
When was that, about 1600 or so? It is nonsense like that statement that eggs on the black people and gives them a sense of grievance that doesn't help anyone, least of all them. 1970s. No blacks, Irish or dogs was commonplace. There is at least one photograph. |
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Post by Dan Dare on May 22, 2023 9:23:02 GMT
Nevertheless, what do you think the reaction would be if a theatre company announced a 'Whiteout' event at which persons of colour would be asked not to attend in order that the predominantly or wholly white audience would not be subjected to the 'coloured gaze'?
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Post by Dan Dare on May 22, 2023 9:31:34 GMT
1970s. No blacks, Irish or dogs was commonplace. There is at least one photograph. Just the one apparently. The original is held in the Irish Studies Centre at London Metropolitan University where it has been since it was acquired in the early 80s - some 30 years after the alleged events in question. This is it:
It has of course been endlessly re-circulated across the internet and reappears whenever this question re-surfaces. As far as I'm aware, Professor Bruce's appeal in the Guardian (see my earlier post) for more examples to be shown has remained unanswered.
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Post by Bentley on May 22, 2023 9:38:52 GMT
Nevertheless, what do you think the reaction would be if a theatre company announced a 'Whiteout' event at which persons of colour would be asked not to attend in order that the predominantly or wholly white audience would not be subjected to the 'coloured gaze'? Indeed. Ive repeatedly asked the same question . Unfortunately it hasnt been answered yet. |
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Post by see2 on May 22, 2023 9:41:15 GMT
Nevertheless, what do you think the reaction would be if a theatre company announced a 'Whiteout' event at which persons of colour would be asked not to attend in order that the predominantly or wholly white audience would not be subjected to the 'coloured gaze'? First of all, the surrounding influences would be very different. White people were never taken in their hundreds of thousands into slavery by coloured people where there was beating abuse and rape and more, that their white descendants had to deal with mentally. If it was a satirical show based upon American experiences where people of colour were 'urged' not to attend, I suspect people of colour would probably just take the advice. |
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Post by Orac on May 22, 2023 9:45:44 GMT
Just the one apparently. The original is held in the Irish Studies Centre at London Metropolitan University where it has been since it was acquired in the early 80s - some 30 years after the alleged events in question. This is it: I stand corrected. I understand there is one, but was allowing for the possibility perhaps another had been discovered. The search goes on I guess. |
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Post by Dan Dare on May 22, 2023 9:46:27 GMT
The ancestors of some of the white people in attendance may well also have endured cruel treatment and horrendous conditions during the early stages of the industrial revolution.
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