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Post by Bentley on May 14, 2023 22:11:52 GMT
Further to my post regarding “ Forcing dogma on the masses is not new . We just have new zealots forcing the dogma of their new cult on the masses “
We have an example on here.
One of the lefties on here has constructed a false claim that I am a fundamentalist Christian so that he can use strawman and Ad hominem tu quoque fallacies to refute any criticism of their left wing dogma.
Unfortunately one of the mods seem to be doing the same .
What happens is that everyone time I refute a point it becomes a bitchfest of false claims and counter claims .
This is the equivalent of lefties shouting down people in the street who disagree and leads to people being ostracised for disagreeing with them .
Note. I’m merely pointing out the cynical nature of the new cult of woke and its strategy.I have no problem with a constant stream of counter trolling and bear pit ‘ debate’.
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Post by zanygame on May 15, 2023 5:42:46 GMT
A biological man cannot be defined as a biological woman because a biological man thinks he is a biological woman . How has stating a fact become a problem? Lefties try all sorts of mental gymnastics , insults and general fuckwittery to evade a simple truth . Once we all agree with the bleeding obvious then we can find a way to facilitate vulnerable people who believe they are something that they plainly are not . I've yet to find a single person who has ever questioned that biologically a man can be a woman without surgery and hormone therapy. But you employ Mags favourite tactic. Build a strawman, put words in its mouth that are easy to argue against and then feel smug. Not surprised she leapt onboard. Strange you would do that while you hate the fact that others try to undermine your arguments by doing it to you. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 15, 2023 6:45:22 GMT
I can see that some are getting confused so here's a witty ditty to help:
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Post by Orac on May 15, 2023 7:35:14 GMT
A biological man cannot be defined as a biological woman because a biological man thinks he is a biological woman . How has stating a fact become a problem? Lefties try all sorts of mental gymnastics , insults and general fuckwittery to evade a simple truth . Once we all agree with the bleeding obvious then we can find a way to facilitate vulnerable people who believe they are something that they plainly are not . I've yet to find a single person who has ever questioned that biologically a man can be a woman without surgery and hormone therapy. A 'biological man' can't become a 'biological woman' - for clarity it is probably better to use the terms 'human male' and 'human female' |
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Post by sheepy on May 15, 2023 7:52:52 GMT
I've yet to find a single person who has ever questioned that biologically a man can be a woman without surgery and hormone therapy. A 'biological man' can't become a 'biological woman' - for clarity it is probably better to use the terms 'human male' and 'human female' Beware of the lab rats taking science and turning it into a psychological weapon I reckon. |
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Post by see2 on May 15, 2023 7:59:26 GMT
GBNews, ah, little FOX news. The Right wingers are on the move. |
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Post by Orac on May 15, 2023 8:05:37 GMT
A 'biological man' can't become a 'biological woman' - for clarity it is probably better to use the terms 'human male' and 'human female' Beware of the lab rats taking science and turning it into a psychological weapon I reckon. Can we soon expect another edit to the dictionary? - Woman: Any biological organism of either sex |
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Post by see2 on May 15, 2023 8:09:24 GMT
I've yet to find a single person who has ever questioned that biologically a man can be a woman without surgery and hormone therapy. - for clarity it is probably better to use the terms 'human male' and 'human female' True, the unfortunate bit is the fact that a mix of the biologies does exist. |
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Post by Orac on May 15, 2023 8:11:19 GMT
A 'biological man' can't become a 'biological woman' - for clarity it is probably better to use the terms 'human male' and 'human female' True, the unfortunate bit is the fact that a mix of the biologies does exist. It's rare and unfortunate and these people should be treated with sympathy and dignity, just as any person with any disability |
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Post by Bentley on May 15, 2023 8:36:48 GMT
A biological man cannot be defined as a biological woman because a biological man thinks he is a biological woman . How has stating a fact become a problem? Lefties try all sorts of mental gymnastics , insults and general fuckwittery to evade a simple truth . Once we all agree with the bleeding obvious then we can find a way to facilitate vulnerable people who believe they are something that they plainly are not . I've yet to find a single person who has ever questioned that biologically a man can be a woman without surgery and hormone therapy. But you employ Mags favourite tactic. Build a strawman, put words in its mouth that are easy to argue against and then feel smug. Not surprised she leapt onboard. Strange you would do that while you hate the fact that others try to undermine your arguments by doing it to you. You have yet to find a single person who claims that a biological man cannot be defines as a woman? You need to get out more and/ or stop building strawmen yourself . |
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Post by Bentley on May 15, 2023 8:47:30 GMT
I've yet to find a single person who has ever questioned that biologically a man can be a woman without surgery and hormone therapy. A 'biological man' can't become a 'biological woman' - for clarity it is probably better to use the terms 'human male' and 'human female' This is another woke lefties tactic. They change the emphasis from man to woman to create strawmen and accuse others of doing it . When it’s pointed out that a biological man cannot be a biological woman they pretend that this was never claimed in the first place . So how can a biological man be defined as a biological woman ? Just change the definition of woman or claim that the definition of woman and man is a social construct and meaningless . Just another way to claim that a biological man can be defined as a biological woman . So with that in mind I don’t think the term ‘ human male ‘ or ‘ human female’ brings more clarity. It muddies the waters and gives lefties wriggle room to inject feelings into a factual argument. |
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Post by see2 on May 15, 2023 8:55:20 GMT
True, the unfortunate bit is the fact that a mix of the biologies does exist. It's rare and unfortunate and these people should be treated with sympathy and dignity, just as any person with any disability It is far from rare, it is there all around us everyday. While what follows does not equate with the real problems of mixed biology and does not infer a lack of belief people have in their own sexuality, it does show the mix of biology. Men with narrow shoulders and wide hips. Females with broad shoulders and small hips. Men who hardly need to shave. Females who need to shave or they will grow a full beard. Males with a full head of hair into their 70s. Females with thinning hair (without alopecia) in their 30s Men with medium voices. Females with very guttural voices. Males with soft facial definition. Females with chiseled faces. |
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Post by sheepy on May 15, 2023 8:57:32 GMT
It's rare and unfortunate and these people should be treated with sympathy and dignity, just as any person with any disability It is far from rare, it is there all around us everyday. While what follows does not equate with the real problems of mixed biology and does not infer a lack of belief people have in their own sexuality, it does show the mix of biology. Men with narrow shoulders and wide hips. Females with broad shoulders and small hips. Men who hardly need to shave. Females who need to shave or they will grow a full beard. Males with a full head of hair into their 70s. Females with thinning hair (without alopecia) in their 30s Men with medium voices. Females with very guttural voices. Males with soft facial definition. Females with chiseled faces. So we have a growing mix of Hormones problem, now let me think, how would something like that occur? |
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Post by Orac on May 15, 2023 9:01:49 GMT
It's rare and unfortunate and these people should be treated with sympathy and dignity, just as any person with any disability It is far from rare, it is there all around us everyday. It's extremely rare. You are confusing sex with (say) wide vs narrow shoulders. These are not the same things |
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Post by Bentley on May 15, 2023 9:04:22 GMT
True, the unfortunate bit is the fact that a mix of the biologies does exist. It's rare and unfortunate and these people should be treated with sympathy and dignity, just as any person with any disability Indeed. Society could be kinder and could facilitate much of what they need but the zealots want truth and fact to be changed in order that they be defined as something they clearly are not. imo the leftie zealots do not care about trans people . They are using them as a means to change society into an equality of outcome ( rather than an equality of opportunity) utopian delusion. Trans are being used as pawns . |
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