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Post by jonksy on May 13, 2023 17:00:35 GMT
Not really. It is a very inciteful comment. Recognising things for what they are is key to making advancements. Understanding the eye for what it is has helped lead to real quality of life improvements from glasses to contacts to various eye surgeries. The same thing could be the case for those who suffer from gender dysphoria. Rather than this ridiculous approach of humouring people that want to redefine sex / gender, it would be far better to understand what gender dysphoria actually is, what causes it and how to treat it. It would far improve the quality of life for sufferers of gender dysphoria if they could be cured rather than them have to live with it, play dress up, or go off and mutilate their bodies with unnecessary and potentially dangerous surgeries. We are talking about women, this is just a deflection. This always happens when Tories get stuck, shout 'quick look at that' and alter the parameters.🤣 At least the tories can define a woman dead nag. Unlike the labour tosser you are defending. |
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Post by zanygame on May 13, 2023 17:07:37 GMT
But sometimes the biology does not match the brain or the hormones. Irrelevant - the system of sex suggests (in fact, is) a binary. This fact has nothing at all to do with tradition. Nor has sexual preference. Tradition makes no attempt to accept homosexuality let alone any degrees either side of it. Tradition has no part in nature. Apes don't have tradition they have instinct. Evolution does not follow a single course either. Of course if we are true to our nature all men should try to physically control each other and rape women. Oh and kill their children and force them to have yours. Of course those who hate change always cherry pick which point along our evolution that best suits their own views. |
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Post by zanygame on May 13, 2023 17:14:07 GMT
But sometimes the biology does not match the brain or the hormones. Are you suggesting that we should redefine scientific fact to account for some people with mental issues? I am suggesting that mental issues are what makes us. Mental issues such as the insecurity that makes people try and look down on those who are different. Or the need to be deliberately mean and petty. To more measured and scientific people, I suggest that the brain decides what our sexual preferences are and not the penis. Though I accept their are some men who only use their knob head to think. |
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Post by thescotsman on May 13, 2023 17:16:06 GMT
....errrmm....who or what is GB News...?? |
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Post by Orac on May 13, 2023 17:23:47 GMT
Irrelevant - the system of sex suggests (in fact, is) a binary. This fact has nothing at all to do with tradition. Nor has sexual preference. Tradition makes no attempt to accept homosexuality let alone any degrees either side of it. Tradition has no part in nature. Apes don't have tradition they have instinct. Evolution does not follow a single course either. Of course if we are true to our nature all men should try to physically control each other and rape women. Oh and kill their children and force them to have yours. My point was that sex is a biological system and that this system employs a binary distinction in a species - ie two variants of a species. Tradition has nothing to do with it at all - apart, that is, from the fact that tradition quite often tracks some important part of reality. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 13, 2023 17:39:11 GMT
Are you suggesting that we should redefine scientific fact to account for some people with mental issues? I am suggesting that mental issues are what makes us. Mental issues such as the insecurity that makes people try and look down on those who are different. Or the need to be deliberately mean and petty. To more measured and scientific people, I suggest that the brain decides what our sexual preferences are and not the penis.
Though I accept their are some men who only use their knob head to think. Sexual preferences are not driven by gender or sex - so why any need to accommodate them? For thousands of years personal sexual preference has been available to everyone without needing to redefine scientific fact. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 17:44:09 GMT
I will repeat. Are you saying definitively that no female has been born with some male 'parts'? Are you saying definitively that no male has been born with some female 'parts'? Questions have a ? at the end, just so you know. There have always been those unfiortunate ones dead nag. So stop trying to be clever. You are not upto it. So you admit that the question of gender is not binary and all the crap you come out with is rubbish. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 17:45:08 GMT
We are talking about women, this is just a deflection. This always happens when Tories get stuck, shout 'quick look at that' and alter the parameters.🤣 At least the tories can define a woman dead nag. Unlike the labour tosser you are defending. You just lost that arguement. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 19:04:02 GMT
....errrmm....who or what is GB News...?? It's the programme I currently have on the TV. Freeview CH 236. Hope that helps. |
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Post by zanygame on May 13, 2023 20:37:49 GMT
I am suggesting that mental issues are what makes us. Mental issues such as the insecurity that makes people try and look down on those who are different. Or the need to be deliberately mean and petty. To more measured and scientific people, I suggest that the brain decides what our sexual preferences are and not the penis.
Though I accept their are some men who only use their knob head to think. Sexual preferences are not driven by gender or sex - so why any need to accommodate them? For thousands of years personal sexual preference has been available to everyone without needing to redefine scientific fact. That makes absolutely no sense. Why is it necessary to 'accommodate' sex at all. |
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Post by thescotsman on May 13, 2023 20:39:22 GMT
....errrmm....who or what is GB News...?? It's the programme I currently have on the TV. Freeview CH 236. Hope that helps. Ah yeah...just seen or on the Sky listing.....never seen it before.... |
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Post by zanygame on May 13, 2023 20:39:22 GMT
Nor has sexual preference. Tradition makes no attempt to accept homosexuality let alone any degrees either side of it. Tradition has no part in nature. Apes don't have tradition they have instinct. Evolution does not follow a single course either. Of course if we are true to our nature all men should try to physically control each other and rape women. Oh and kill their children and force them to have yours. My point was that sex is a biological system and that this system employs a binary distinction in a species - ie two variants of a species. Tradition has nothing to do with it at all - apart, that is, from the fact that tradition quite often tracks some important part of reality. You know full well that sex in human beings is far more complex than that or we wouldn't be having the conversations at all. |
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Post by sheepy on May 13, 2023 20:55:14 GMT
Nor has sexual preference. Tradition makes no attempt to accept homosexuality let alone any degrees either side of it. Tradition has no part in nature. Apes don't have tradition they have instinct. Evolution does not follow a single course either. Of course if we are true to our nature all men should try to physically control each other and rape women. Oh and kill their children and force them to have yours. My point was that sex is a biological system and that this system employs a binary distinction in a species - ie two variants of a species. Tradition has nothing to do with it at all - apart, that is, from the fact that tradition quite often tracks some important part of reality. It isn't reality it is not even science, it is the latest fashion. |
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Post by zanygame on May 13, 2023 21:11:43 GMT
My point was that sex is a biological system and that this system employs a binary distinction in a species - ie two variants of a species. Tradition has nothing to do with it at all - apart, that is, from the fact that tradition quite often tracks some important part of reality. It isn't reality it is not even science, it is the latest fashion. Oh yes blokes definitely shag blokes because its fashionable Sigh. |
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Post by thescotsman on May 13, 2023 21:12:44 GMT
My point was that sex is a biological system and that this system employs a binary distinction in a species - ie two variants of a species. Tradition has nothing to do with it at all - apart, that is, from the fact that tradition quite often tracks some important part of reality. You know full well that sex in human beings is far more complex than that or we wouldn't be having the conversations at all. It was much easier back when my kids were born, there were two options lad or lass...made life easier for decorating the kids rooms...pink or blue....yeah I know that boring old meme....pink for girls and blue for boys! I mean nowadays it's all getting a bit too much of a faff...d'ya think kids should come with instruction manuals when they're born? And with an update facility...download the app and tweek the brat....and if the desired sex is not listed then what...then I suppose there'll be some Indian call center?
"allo...mi nam be Gupta...vat can I be doing to assist you today please?"
"Hi I'd like to upgrade my Baby please. My wife downloaded the double shot non-bigender white wheat cislatte hazelnutqueer with extra foam but we've been thinking and....well we'd really really like to alter that to the double flat black whipped queer cisbarleycorn floppy lesbian with strawberry jam and droopyboobs 2.0 please" "oh no problemys sir please be letting me connect with your baby...can you please be going to the baby download app center and downloading "tinkerwonkeybaby" and when prompted please be confirm by pressing the tummy button..." "yup done that" "okay...superdooper sir let me just check your baby's update center....there you be going sir!! super dooper that's all done now....the update will date effect in 24 hours"
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