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Post by buccaneer on May 12, 2023 23:47:27 GMT
Eurovision has always been political.
This is why the city of Liverpool was chosen to host the event, knowing EU jingoism and EU flag waving would be alive and well.
Ho Hum.
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Post by wapentake on May 12, 2023 23:47:40 GMT
Eurovision Song Contest?
For those old enough to remember the above is the musical equivalent of jeux sans frontier aka it’s a knockout washout. Wonder if the scousers will boo the anthem?
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Post by Red Rackham on May 13, 2023 0:00:36 GMT
Eurovision has always been political. This is why the city of Liverpool was chosen to host the event, knowing EU jingoism and EU flag waving would be alive and well. Ho Hum. Liverpool is not only the home of Militant Tendency, but Scousers are left wing chavs who wallow in victimhood. Liverpool was always the obvious choice for Eurovision.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 13, 2023 0:05:56 GMT
Eurovision Song Contest? For those old enough to remember the above is the musical equivalent of jeux sans frontier aka it’s a knockout washout. Wonder if the scousers will boo the anthem? Would you believe me if I said I've never watched a Eurovision song contest in my life? (I'm 64 btw) It's perfectly true. When we were kids mum would watch it and even then within minutes I was bored with it. I've never watched 'tallent' shows. Or maybe I was anti EU from childhood? It would be nice to think I was that switched on aged 5.
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Post by wapentake on May 13, 2023 0:36:30 GMT
Eurovision Song Contest? For those old enough to remember the above is the musical equivalent of jeux sans frontier aka it’s a knockout washout. Wonder if the scousers will boo the anthem? Would you believe me if I said I've never watched a Eurovision song contest in my life? (I'm 64 btw) It's perfectly true. When we were kids mum would watch it and even then within minutes I was bored with it. I've never watched 'tallent' shows. Or maybe I was anti EU from childhood? It would be nice to think I was that switched on aged 5. Quite right ‘‘twas always rubbish.
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Post by Montegriffo on May 13, 2023 1:17:03 GMT
So why is Australia, Israel and Azerbaijan in it? Two of those are members of the EBU, and Australia pay into the song contest kitty, because that country is mad for it. I'm still waiting for Vatican City to make good on their membership dues and send an entry along. Popette on a string.
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Post by Toreador on May 13, 2023 5:36:49 GMT
Eurovision IS a European event, it is not a British event So why is Australia, Israel and Azerbaijan in it? They're on the EU conquest list. @:
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Post by Red Rackham on May 13, 2023 6:07:29 GMT
Eurovision IS a European event, it is not a British event The EU flag is the ONLY official European flag ... so whats the problem ? In actual fact the flag is the flag of the European Council, adopted by the European Union, and widely recognised all over the world as representing Europe. Well done to Eurovision Pillock. The island of Britain has been a part of Europe for 600,000 years and that is unlikely to change. The EU on the other hand is a moment in time, it's less than a flea on a pigs arse. The EU is an imposed and unremovable by any democratic means, political ideology. As you know, the reason the EU was quietly over decades imposed is because the people, had they been if full possession of the facts, would have said no. But, history will record the fact that in the EU a yes vote is final, a no vote means another vote. The EU will prevail, just as the politburo did.
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Post by Pacifico on May 13, 2023 6:47:09 GMT
So why is Australia, Israel and Azerbaijan in it? Two of those are members of the EBU, and Australia pay into the song contest kitty, because that country is mad for it. I'm still waiting for Vatican City to make good on their membership dues and send an entry along. Being members of the EBU and chipping into the kitty does not make those countries European. So now we have established that this is not a European event (anyone who chips in can have a go) - why the need to wave the flag of a political union?
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Post by Handyman on May 13, 2023 6:50:55 GMT
I have not watched it for years not since Bucks Fizz was in it , from the clips I see on the news very weird
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Post by walterpaisley on May 13, 2023 7:13:08 GMT
So now we have established that this is not a European event (anyone who chips in can have a go) - why the need to wave the flag of a political union? The contest - as the organisers have pointed out since the same arguments began back when Israel first won, many years ago - is not a song contest for countries "within" Europe, but rather a competition that happens to be organised under the auspices of the EBU, and anyone who pays their dues may enter. Future years may yet see Canada and America (both of whom have expressed interest in joining in) compete. The more the merrier. As far as waving EU flags goes (which, you'll note, is nothing to do with the organisers), you'll see flags of ALL nations being waved tonight - including British. People waving EU flags are likely remainers, sure. There's a lot of us about. It was a pretty narrow vote. (Sergeant Eldest Son, a couple of years ago, had to patiently explain to an outraged old chap that his neighbour who flew the blue and yellow in his garden wasn't breaking any law, and COULDN'T, in fact, be charged under some imaginary treason act..) A few of us will be gathering later to watch. We shall do the Eurovision drinking games (take a shot whenever anyone says "it's the best final ever", etc), take the p*** out of much of it, and generally have a jolly night. Because it's an annual bit of fun - nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by sheepy on May 13, 2023 7:16:32 GMT
So now we have established that this is not a European event (anyone who chips in can have a go) - why the need to wave the flag of a political union? The contest - as the organisers have pointed out since the same arguments began back when Israel first won, many years ago - is not a song contest for countries "within" Europe, but rather a competition that happens to be organised under the auspices of the EBU, and anyone who pays their dues may enter. Future years may yet see Canada and America (both of whom have expressed interest in joining in) compete. The more the merrier. As far as waving EU flags goes (which, you'll note, is nothing to do with the organisers), you'll see flags of ALL nations being waved tonight - including British. People waving EU flags are likely remainers, sure. There's a lot of us about. It was a pretty narrow vote. (Sergeant Eldest Son, a couple of years ago, had to patiently explain to an outraged old chap that his neighbour who flew the blue and yellow in his garden wasn't breaking any law, and COULDN'T, in fact, be charged under some imaginary treason act..) A few of us will be gathering later to watch. We shall do the Eurovision drinking games (take a shot whenever anyone says "it's the best final ever", etc), take the p*** out of much of it, and generally have a jolly night. Because it's an annual bit of fun - nothing more, nothing less. Which has had political leanings for decades. nobody is that innocent for sure not even the participants.
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Post by sandypine on May 13, 2023 9:48:47 GMT
So now we have established that this is not a European event (anyone who chips in can have a go) - why the need to wave the flag of a political union? The contest - as the organisers have pointed out since the same arguments began back when Israel first won, many years ago - is not a song contest for countries "within" Europe, but rather a competition that happens to be organised under the auspices of the EBU, and anyone who pays their dues may enter. Future years may yet see Canada and America (both of whom have expressed interest in joining in) compete. The more the merrier. As far as waving EU flags goes (which, you'll note, is nothing to do with the organisers), you'll see flags of ALL nations being waved tonight - including British. People waving EU flags are likely remainers, sure. There's a lot of us about. It was a pretty narrow vote. (Sergeant Eldest Son, a couple of years ago, had to patiently explain to an outraged old chap that his neighbour who flew the blue and yellow in his garden wasn't breaking any law, and COULDN'T, in fact, be charged under some imaginary treason act..) A few of us will be gathering later to watch. We shall do the Eurovision drinking games (take a shot whenever anyone says "it's the best final ever", etc), take the p*** out of much of it, and generally have a jolly night. Because it's an annual bit of fun - nothing more, nothing less. It is just another example of the extensive funding going in to try and turn the Brexit result around. It may be a majority of Liverpool voted to stay in the EU but what is happening is that the 42% who voted with the majority of the country are now of no consequence to be ignored.
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Post by Fairsociety on May 13, 2023 10:09:08 GMT
Eurovision has always been political. This is why the city of Liverpool was chosen to host the event, knowing EU jingoism and EU flag waving would be alive and well. Ho Hum. The lefties are rife in Liverpool, they've always been run by a loony lefty Council, the last Mayor Big Joe Anderson got the bullet because he was handing out contracts to his mates with huge backhanders, but the Big boss Starmer had a word with his mates at the CPS and Anderson got off with it, everyone in the Council knew he was bang at it, but when the boss is as corrupt, and has the right contacts he can make things go away, like beergate.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 10:38:14 GMT
No one can change or alter the fact that the Council Of Europe Flag ( the flag of the European Union ) is the ONLY known and officialy recognised flag of the entire continent of Europe excluding Belarus and Russia, but including the United Kingdom.
To wave "THE EUROPEAN FLAG" at the Eurovision Song Contest would, to most normal people, seem appropriate.
But not to the sour faced Brexit brigade
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