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Post by wapentake on May 10, 2023 22:10:40 GMT
No that’s normal,however many years ago and as I’m an old duffer it really was,met a mate who was a chef went for more than a few drinks,got stopped by the police and let’s look in your bag. Full set of chefs knives and his apparel. Cops were fine it’s your work stuff on your way. My point? and yes I’m harping on about it again but those three volunteers giving out rape alarms as they do all the time and work with the cops and get arrested it’s mad. Do they do it mid morning at a Constitutional procession? - strikes me as a very odd time and place to do that. Do we have a problem with women getting raped during parades down Whitehall in the middle of the day? They were arrested at 2am doing their unpaid voluntary work.
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Post by colbops on May 11, 2023 2:36:42 GMT
The right to protest peacefully and within recognised laws should be enshrined in law It is - Human Rights Act 1998 why anyone thinks it ok to arrest someone for things you think they might do is beyond me If a police officer suspects someone is about to commit an offence and deems it necessary to arrest that person to prevent the suspected offence from being committed it seems reasonable to me that the officer make the arrest. Probably should be enshrined in law - oh wait it is - Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984
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Post by wapentake on May 11, 2023 5:56:01 GMT
The right to protest peacefully and within recognised laws should be enshrined in law It is - Human Rights Act 1998 why anyone thinks it ok to arrest someone for things you think they might do is beyond me If a police officer suspects someone is about to commit an offence and deems it necessary to arrest that person to prevent the suspected offence from being committed it seems reasonable to me that the officer make the arrest. Probably should be enshrined in law - oh wait it is - Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 You have the right to protest but the govt thinks you are a pita so they tell the police your rights are withheld on the grounds we have reasonable suspicion which they don’t since the protestors have been liaising with police for months or in the case of the volunteers no grounds whatsoever. One act cancelling out another makes the law an ass and anyone thinking that ok is too- oh wait you do.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 8:26:14 GMT
I am afraid your questions are now becoming surreal. I notice you keep asking but never answering, is that from the Tory playbook? Well if you actually asked a question instead of making statements you might get an answer. Care to answer who should decide whether you have a right to protest if not the Government? I have on many occasions asked you a direct question but you deflect and fail to answer, it is vey much like PMQs.
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Post by colbops on May 11, 2023 14:13:26 GMT
It is - Human Rights Act 1998 If a police officer suspects someone is about to commit an offence and deems it necessary to arrest that person to prevent the suspected offence from being committed it seems reasonable to me that the officer make the arrest. Probably should be enshrined in law - oh wait it is - Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 1) You have the right to protest but the govt thinks you are a pita so they tell the police your rights are withheld on the grounds we have reasonable suspicion which they don’t since the protestors have been liaising with police for months or in the case of the volunteers no grounds whatsoever. 2) One act cancelling out another makes the law an ass and anyone thinking that ok is too- oh wait you do. 1) The government can't do that. Your argument is nonsensical. 2) One act cancelling out another happens all the time. That parliament can repeal or amend an existing act via an act is fundamental to parliamentary sovereignty. Without this ability the UK would no longer be a democracy. Again, a nonsensical argument
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Post by see2 on May 11, 2023 15:41:43 GMT
See2, you are becoming overwrought again, the good people on here are trying to improve your understanding. Blimey Tor, we'd end up looking like your Avatar trying to improve see2 understanding. Denigration is the hiding place of the cowards, which is why so many right wingers and Tories are so eager to use it.
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Post by see2 on May 11, 2023 15:44:52 GMT
I agree people should not be prevented from disagreement, and I have NEVER claimed they should. Safety is safety, it is not a mask for anything. I find it actually disgusting that you would so dishonestly deal with the word in the context in which I used it. You are sticking to the story that you are really concerned about 'safety'? You must think the rest of us came down in the last shower Stop insinuating the lie that I meant anything other than what I posted. WHY ARE YOU DOING IT??
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Post by Toreador on May 11, 2023 18:39:25 GMT
Blimey Tor, we'd end up looking like your Avatar trying to improve see2 understanding. Denigration is the hiding place of the cowards, which is why so many right wingers and Tories are so eager to use it. Since I'm neither, it is difficult for me to come up with an answer.
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Post by wapentake on May 11, 2023 23:08:00 GMT
1) You have the right to protest but the govt thinks you are a pita so they tell the police your rights are withheld on the grounds we have reasonable suspicion which they don’t since the protestors have been liaising with police for months or in the case of the volunteers no grounds whatsoever. 2) One act cancelling out another makes the law an ass and anyone thinking that ok is too- oh wait you do. 1) The government can't do that. Your argument is nonsensical. 2) One act cancelling out another happens all the time. That parliament can repeal or amend an existing act via an act is fundamental to parliamentary sovereignty. Without this ability the UK would no longer be a democracy. Again, a nonsensical argument Nah the only nonsense is you haven’t a clue what happened.
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Post by colbops on May 11, 2023 23:55:01 GMT
1) The government can't do that. Your argument is nonsensical. 2) One act cancelling out another happens all the time. That parliament can repeal or amend an existing act via an act is fundamental to parliamentary sovereignty. Without this ability the UK would no longer be a democracy. Again, a nonsensical argument Nah the only nonsense is you haven’t a clue what happened. What happened?
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Post by wapentake on May 12, 2023 0:08:52 GMT
Nah the only nonsense is you haven’t a clue what happened. What happened? Read back the thread from the start all will become clear.
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Post by see2 on May 12, 2023 7:23:20 GMT
Denigration is the hiding place of the cowards, which is why so many right wingers and Tories are so eager to use it. Since I'm neither, it is difficult for me to come up with an answer. Fair enough, but my point is still valid.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 12, 2023 11:12:19 GMT
Looks like they banged up An Aussie for the crime of going to watch the procession Sounds Fair Enough, they want to be a bloody republic they have no business being here … (Oops😁😁😁) www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65567316
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Post by thomas on May 12, 2023 11:14:46 GMT
Looks like they banged up An Aussie for the crime of going to watch the procession Sounds Fair Enough, they want to be a bloody republic they have no business being here … (Oops😁😁😁) www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65567316hilarious.
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Post by bancroft on May 12, 2023 12:57:16 GMT
I think a lot of you are wrong,reading today you cannot protest as a Pro-life protester outside an abortion clinic.
As I said before they can protest at any time yet choose to do so on the biggest event which may not happen again for several years and is televised around the world.
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