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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 7:36:22 GMT
One detail I heard is that some protesters were handing out rape alarms and encouraging people to use them. Apparently, the noise is a known issue for horses. One detail I heard is that some Councils were handing out rape alarms and encouraging women to use them if attacked and that police were taking them off them, not a good look that. Army horses are very well trained and are used to loud noises, such as drums, wind instruments and the like being belted out whilst remaining calm. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 10, 2023 7:38:59 GMT
People were banned from protesting the COVID lockdowns - where was your concern then? Public health and safety. Whether this was right or wrong is another issue. So we are back to the Government deciding when you can protest - so much for it being a 'right'.. |
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Post by Orac on May 10, 2023 7:40:47 GMT
See2,
If you think that using social media is dangerous, you need to get out more.
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Post by Handyman on May 10, 2023 7:51:05 GMT
My two bob's worth on this , there appears to have been some misleading ill informed reports by the media on Saturday, when Police arrest a suspect they have the authority to keep that suspect in custody for 24 hours, if the offence is serious and they cannot bail them the Police can apply for a Court order to keep them for longer, the CPS decide who is charged and with what not the Police In todays Evening Standard the Met Police Commissioner has written an article supporting his Officers and more details, hopefully the link will work www.standard.co.uk/news/ukThis link takes you straight to the article. Thank You I do have problems some times with links |
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Post by see2 on May 10, 2023 7:51:33 GMT
Of course they won - they don't care about 'politicians acting haste' - they leave that to people who are exercised by the new Law. All the Police had to do was ensure that the event passed off without incident - which it did. I'm damn sure they will take the win..  Your problem like them is you don’t see when you’ve lost the argument,let’s see how this pans out? IMO it has already 'panned out' with a successful coronation. The rest is about getting on with life. I think it is obvious that the demonstrators wish to do away with the Royalty, what we don't know is just what they wish to change the system to. I suspect that a similar situation is likely where after the English civil war the main leaders of the Round Heads found they were fighting for a number of different reasons and looking for different outcomes. Similar discontent amongst the presently 'united' front probably. |
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Post by Handyman on May 10, 2023 7:53:00 GMT
So you are OK with illegally detaining people as long as they disagree with you? I'm a royalist but I'm very uncomfortable with this. By your logic it would be OK to detain remnants just so you can quietly get on with Brexit... What's your evidence that the protesters were arrested for political reasons? The police have stated that the detentions were to prevent a breach of the peace. Good question and yes I agree |
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Post by see2 on May 10, 2023 7:55:33 GMT
See2, If you think that using social media is dangerous, you need to get out more. I don't think, I instinctively know that the spread of rightwing ideology is dangerous. Trump is one example and Netanyahu is another. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 7:59:11 GMT
Public health and safety. Whether this was right or wrong is another issue. So we are back to the Government deciding when you can protest - so much for it being a 'right'.. They did decide. I do not believe they should have. |
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Post by Orac on May 10, 2023 8:13:29 GMT
See2, If you think that using social media is dangerous, you need to get out more. I don't think, I instinctively know that the spread of rightwing ideology is dangerous. Trump is one example and Netanyahu is another. Talking on the internet is one of the safest past-times ever invented. You are not in danger |
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Post by see2 on May 10, 2023 8:18:43 GMT
I don't think, I instinctively know that the spread of rightwing ideology is dangerous. Trump is one example and Netanyahu is another. Talking on the internet is one of the safest past-times ever invented. You are not in danger It is the outcome and just who the inciters are looking to incite that is the apparently unavoidable danger. When MI5 have pointed out the increase in activity of right-wing extremism on social media by young teenagers, then perhaps people should take note. |
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Post by walterpaisley on May 10, 2023 8:21:25 GMT
Talking on the internet is one of the safest past-times ever invented. You are not in danger "Prevent" would beg to differ. Thankfully. |
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Post by Orac on May 10, 2023 8:31:58 GMT
Talking on the internet is one of the safest past-times ever invented. You are not in danger "Prevent" would beg to differ. Thankfully. The organisation which was found recently to be identifying Yes Minister as a red flag for a right wing terroristic threat? I think we can safely ignore these people until they recover their psychiatric bearings. My objection was to the use the language of 'safety' to rationalise restriction of expression - as if allowing people to communicate, or being on the internet, was somehow like performing a dangerous high wire act. Idiotic |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 10, 2023 8:38:40 GMT
So, in precis then: The left believe that freedom of speech and freedom to protest are fine as long as it's their freedom of speech and freedom to protest.
Otherwise, they're quite happy to bring their jackboots down on it.
Hypocrites, as usual.
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Post by Orac on May 10, 2023 8:47:06 GMT
So, in precis then: The left believe that freedom of speech and freedom to protest are fine as long as it's their freedom of speech and freedom to protest. Otherwise, they're quite happy to bring their jackboots down on it. Hypocrites, as usual. Weirdly, in the clearest case of expression only - i.e. talking on the internet - much of the left are agreed that there needs to be very heavy restrictions. |
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Post by wapentake on May 10, 2023 8:47:12 GMT
Your problem like them is you don’t see when you’ve lost the argument,let’s see how this pans out? IMO it has already 'panned out' with a successful coronation. The rest is about getting on with life. I think it is obvious that the demonstrators wish to do away with the Royalty, what we don't know is just what they wish to change the system to. I suspect that a similar situation is likely where after the English civil war the main leaders of the Round Heads found they were fighting for a number of different reasons and looking for different outcomes. Similar discontent amongst the presently 'united' front probably. What are you talking about you and Pacifico the arrest of a handful of protestors and innocent peopleis nothing to worry about,really? If you think detaining people who have committed no offence is ok crack on it’s a world you may wish for but it does have long term consequences for us all. Not least the Met whose reputation is at an all time low,why do you think it is acceptable to detain volunteers working with the police and other agencies for public safety? and do you think this inspires anyone to do this work in the future at a time the met was supposed to be rebuilding trust and rapport that incident alone has severely dented it. Read and digest what former chief constable Peter Fahy had to say inews.co.uk/news/police-under-pressure-home-office-crackdown-protests-coronation-arrests-2327808As I’ve said previously I don’t blame those on the frontline but I do politicians and some senior officers. |
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