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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 13:26:10 GMT
dont shoot the messengr mate. im just reporting what my welsh friends and thier media tell me.
The Welsh figures under Labour are a breathtaking 771% worse than Scotland’s. We’re going to say that again in case you think it’s a typo:
Seven hundred and seventy-one percent.
There’s a reason the Scottish public don’t trust Labour to run their public services, even when they’re imperfect. And everyone except Scottish Labour knows what it is.
You clearly have an interest, but as it has sweet FA to do with the English NHS, I have no interest in it whatsoever. Just as you have no interest in the mess the Tories left the English NHS in after 18 years of Conservative maladministration. of course you have no interest in facts that show labour for the mess that they are.
Why is the tory run english nhs performing better than wales then?
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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 13:28:08 GMT
The welsh population is older than the English population thats one reason reason the welsh NHS Is Struggling. How can you compare a population of 51 million to a population of 3 million. Has for the welsh NHS it has more Nurses and Beds compared to the English NHS scotland has an older popualtion than england , yet outperforms labours wales and the tories england. So we dont want to hear any more of your peurile excuses for limp wristed new labour mate.
your crap , and we all know it.
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 13:41:58 GMT
HaThomas wales has the oldest population in the uk
And why does Scottish NHS out perform the English Tory NHS because they have a socialist Government that tells you a story
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Post by see2 on Oct 23, 2022 13:44:35 GMT
You clearly have an interest, but as it has sweet FA to do with the English NHS, I have no interest in it whatsoever. Just as you have no interest in the mess the Tories left the English NHS in after 18 years of Conservative maladministration. of course you have no interest in facts that show labour for the mess that they are.
Why is the tory run english nhs performing better than wales then?
You clearly have difficulty in reading and understanding replies to your posts. You do not appear to be able to debate replies, you just try to bully your way through pushing your own opinions. There are a few Debating Boards that reserve themselves for young people I think one might be more suitable to your style of posts. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 13:46:33 GMT
HaThomas wales has the oldest population in the uk you arent the brightest bulb are you my friend. Let me help you once again. Scotland has an older popualtion than england , but outperforms england in terms of nhs , rubbishing your quip that labours problems in wales are all the fault of the old welsh people.
there is no level you new labour muppets wont stoop to , nor scapegoat you will blame in pursuit of power and defence of your own lamentable record is there?
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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 13:48:19 GMT
of course you have no interest in facts that show labour for the mess that they are.
Why is the tory run english nhs performing better than wales then?
You clearly have difficulty in reading and understanding replies to your posts. You do not appear to be able to debate replies, you just try to bully your way through pushing your own opinions. There are a few Debating Boards that reserve themselves for young people I think one might be more suitable to your style of posts. thomas.....why is the english nhs outperforming wales , and scotland outperforming both wales and england?
See2 .........waffle waffle waffle.
we dont want any of your lame excuses over labours miserable performance mate , not if you want to take power.
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 13:57:19 GMT
Urrm No reply to my Statement that the reason the Scottish NHS out performs the Tory NHS is because they have a socialist a Government
I wonder why you left that out
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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 14:04:14 GMT
Urrm No reply to my Statement that the reason the Scottish NHS out performs the Tory NHS is because they have a socialist a Government I wonder why you left that out
the snp are socialsit? Nicola sturgeon might be many things, socialisit she is not.FFS new labour in scotland call the snp the tartan tories , while the tories call them communist. The snp are all things to all men depending on th argument.
They are more to the left than the tories or new labour , but i would hardly call the new snp socialist.
Nice diversion after hanging your whole argument on blaming the old people in wales for labours dismall performance there , you retreat onto screaming about socialsim.
Starmer hates socialists anyway and purged them out of labour over the last few years so its only centrists that are left.
Are you saying thats why new labour are shite?
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 14:08:43 GMT
No im not saying New labour are crap what I will say under New labour the English NHS was better than the rest off the uk.
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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 14:14:40 GMT
No im not saying New labour are crap what I will say under New labour the English NHS was better than the rest off the uk. we go around in circles.
Under new labour , the scottish nhs was a mess till we kicked them out .
under new labour the english nhs was a mess , and under new labour the welsh nhs remains a mess.
The gudieline and all we have to go on is past and current new labour records , and its woefull. Many of the problems both the tories and snp ogvernments are dealing with is new labours pfi fiasco that still takes large chunks of nhs funding in scotland and england.
no thanks.
Thakfully new labour are hated in scotland .Lets hope england comes to its senses too and remembers the past under those new labour clowns...
Panelbase poll, 7th-11th October 2022:
Scottish Parliament constituency vote:
SNP 45% (-2)
Labour 28% (+6)
Conservatives 15% (-2)
Liberal Democrats 6% (-3)
Alba 3% (n/a)
Greens 3% (-)
Scottish Parliament regional list vote:
SNP 37% (-4)
Labour 26% (+4)
Conservatives 17% (-2)
Greens 9% (+1)
Liberal Democrats 7% (-)
Alba 4% (n/a)
Seats projection: SNP 62 (-2), Labour 32 (+10), Conservatives 19 (-12), Greens 10 (+2), Liberal Democrats 6 (+2)
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Post by piglet on Oct 23, 2022 14:19:19 GMT
Magrath, can you explain your earlier post.? If what you mean by your comment is that pandering to the British public has got us where we are, spot on. Every politician has to decide whats best for the country, compared to whats right for the party. Enter party whips. Labour has no such qualm, party comes first.
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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 14:19:39 GMT
No im not saying New labour are crap what I will say under New labour the English NHS was better than the rest off the uk. Welsh NHS records worst performance figures ever as fears over patient safety intensify
Wales has worst child poverty in UK
its like the chicken and egg scenario what came first poverty or the labour party? Everywhere they get in , they reduce down to third world levels.
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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 14:22:34 GMT
No im not saying New labour are crap but they are crap.
Labour run Wales now has the worst child poverty rate of all the UK nations, new study shows
Wales now has the worst child poverty rate of all the UK nations, with 31% of children living below the poverty line, new research shows.
England has 30%, while Scotland and Northern Ireland each have 24% of children living in poverty.
Even before the pandemic, almost 200,000 children were living in poverty in Wales, with a higher proportion of children affected than at any point in the past 5 years.
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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 14:25:11 GMT
No im not saying New labour are crap
Wales is one of just a few parts of the UK that have seen a rise in child poverty
Labour run Welsh NHS has worst waiting times in UK for life-saving diagnostic tests
Official figures show 42% of patients in Wales wait six weeks to be seen compared with just 1.8% in England
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Post by thomas on Oct 23, 2022 14:28:28 GMT
No im not saying New labour are crap what I will say under New labour the English NHS was better than the rest off the uk. Why are Welsh Labour politicians pretending they don’t run the NHS in Wales?
During the General Election fewer than two months ago, the Labour party hammered the Conservatives on their record on the NHS in England.
“A decade of Tory health cuts and privatisations has pushed our greatest institution to the brink,” their manifesto warned.
“Our hospitals are crumbling, equipment is outdated, IT systems are inadequate and community facilities are neglected.”
One thing was made clear – Labour were holding the Tories to account for their record on the NHS.
However, when it comes to the running of the NHS in Wales, which is fully under the control of the Labour Welsh Government, they now pretend that they have nothing to do with it.
same old new labour party denial of thier record of governance.
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