Slowly and bit by bit it’s sold off

I must be honest and say that the attitude now is similar to the attitude around the end of the nineties
.” You should be thankful that you are seen at all “ kind of atmosphere but I dispute that it’s all about money.
The NHS staff have has smoke blown up their collective arses during the COVID years and called heroes when they didn’t deserve it .
The only heroes were the ones entering the COVID hot wards during the worst of the epidemic .Watching people die in front of them ( sometimes because they were incorrect put on ventilators). The rest of the staff were not put in much more danger than supermarket workers .
These heroes are quite content to be the cause of much pain and death caused by industrial action now. How times change .

You mistakenly asked a stupid question without qualifying it firsthand. The inference would naturally be towards wages and I suspect that is what you were referring to.
Maybe you just posted “ Guess where the money is “ without actually thinking too much .

You did mean wages . 
”Guess where the moneys is” well the money is in the £150 billion per year NHS obviously . The NHS is far larger than BUPA.
Of course when you asked “ Guess where the money is “ you were referring to “ working conditions, number of staff, stress levels, job satisfaction.“ 
That’s why you didn’t initially refer to them .🙄
Lets move on.

I agree. I don’t believe that the core reason that you can’t get a doctors appointment or that NHS dentists are as rare as rocking horse shit is because the NHS isn’t getting enough billions of pounds . I think the whole thing is run and staffed by people who are essentially imcompetent.
The Mid and South Essex NHS Foundation Trust consists mainly of three hospital . In the case of vascular surgery clinics none of the three can share data directly with the other one. Also I have been informed that Southend hospital would not have records about an operation done in broomfield. So Southend would not know about a negative reaction to morphine during an operation in Broomfield. 
In my case the vascular clinics failed to communicate between Basildon and Southend for two years ,even when  continuously prompted. 
This isn’t about money , it’s about people unable to do their jobs .
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I would agree that there’s too much bureaucracy,where I differ is that far from frightened to make reforms they have over decades between the two parties buggered the whole thing up with their meddling from PFI’s to trusts who I wouldn’t trust to run anything other than in to the ground.

I have a few friends/acquaintances who work in the nhs from midwives thrown to the wolves and now lost to the nhs and the madness of paper shufflers.

It’s not just the nhs there’s an industry of regulation in this country so great in some cases that the sheer weight of it diverts people from the job they are employed to do meaning the core reason for their work is lost to things that change on so regular a basis contradicting that which was previously held as tablets of stone.

The tragedy of of it is that when it all goes wrong as it often does some overpaid **** stands in front of the assembled press talking crap and finishes with the usual “lessons have been learnt” when clearly they never are..

Whether there is evidence of privatisation, widespread or otherwise is not the question. The question is, why of the 1.3 million NHS employees are half of them none clinical? The NHS is an absolute monster, it's a £220 billion (2020/21) money pit because politicians are frightened to touch it. 

The NHs does need more money, it treats more people every year with more long term ailments. It receives less money per patient than most of its contemporaries across the Western world. 

A a question for you.

If the NHS doesn't need more money, how come the private systems charge so much more for the same treatments?