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Post by Vinny on Apr 25, 2023 8:22:37 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Apr 25, 2023 8:26:59 GMT
They always stay clear when they are told the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 8:41:28 GMT
It's very old news, we were saying as much when it happened, do keep up.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 25, 2023 9:58:56 GMT
Poor old Starmer, it's the story of his life, 'We've got no plan'.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 25, 2023 10:04:48 GMT
Fair play to Morgan, he didn't sing Starmer's praises, even though he hated Johnson with a passion
The problem with most Labour supporters they are disillusioned with Starmer and the current Labour party, we have no viable opposition, for the last 13 years it's been a one horse race at the GE, and that's the Tories, I'm struggling to think why people would go out in their masses and vote for a Labour government, they are dysfunctional, and are making things up as they go along.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 25, 2023 11:12:56 GMT
I'm not sure what plan he was supposed to have. At the time of the referendum he was not even in the Government let alone PM so even if he did have a cunning plan he wouldnt have been in a position to implement it.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 25, 2023 11:23:06 GMT
I'm not sure what plan he was supposed to have. At the time of the referendum he was not even in the Government let alone PM so even if he did have a cunning plan he wouldnt have been in a position to implement it. Seven years in to Brexit, and Starmer still hasn't got a plan, how come we aren't hearing about him?
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Post by Bentley on Apr 25, 2023 11:29:09 GMT
Cameron was supposed to stay on and steady the ship after after the referendum but he did a runner. Brexit wasn’t Johnson doing anyway , it was the EUs doing ….Farage was more influential than Boris imo.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 25, 2023 12:04:04 GMT
I'm not surprised. In fact I've speculated it before.
Boris was never a leaver. He was in it for himself.
What surprises me more is that so many people voted for something with no plan. They must take equal responsibility for the mess that we are in now.
However, it's spilt milk. The best we can do is mop up the spillage.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 25, 2023 12:12:43 GMT
I'm not surprised. In fact I've speculated it before. Boris was never a leaver. He was in it for himself. What surprises me more is that so many people voted for something with no plan. They must take equal responsibility for the mess that we are in now. However, it's spilt milk. The best we can do is mop up the spillage. Yes it was a treat the reaction from all political parties when the people spoke.
None of them seen it coming, it's called people power, and that should have taught politicians a lesson, and one of the only reasons Johnson won the General election with a landslide victory was because he was the only leader of the mainstream parties that was prepared to deliver Brexit and honour the democratic wish of the people they serve.
Had Corbyn and Jo Swinson respected the wishes of the people maybe Johnson would not have won with such a big lead, or maybe not even won at all.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 25, 2023 12:27:07 GMT
Yes, I know that you were happy with the outcome, but my question was why did people vote for something with no plan?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 12:53:26 GMT
I'm not sure what plan he was supposed to have. At the time of the referendum he was not even in the Government let alone PM so even if he did have a cunning plan he wouldnt have been in a position to implement it. Seven years in to Brexit, and Starmer still hasn't got a plan, how come we aren't hearing about him? His plan is public knowledge, how long do you sleep per day?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 12:54:55 GMT
Cameron was supposed to stay on and steady the ship after after the referendum but he did a runner. Brexit wasn’t Johnson doing anyway , it was the EUs doing ….Farage was more influential than Boris imo. Did the EU kick us out, did they not want us to stay? Are you attempting to change history, Brexit is a Tory cock-up, no one else is to blame.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 25, 2023 12:55:29 GMT
Seven years in to Brexit, and Starmer still hasn't got a plan, how come we aren't hearing about him? His plan is public knowledge, how long do you sleep per day? I'm all ears?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 12:55:33 GMT
I'm not surprised. In fact I've speculated it before. Boris was never a leaver. He was in it for himself. What surprises me more is that so many people voted for something with no plan. They must take equal responsibility for the mess that we are in now. However, it's spilt milk. The best we can do is mop up the spillage. We were told they had a plan, they lied.
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