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Post by buccaneer on Apr 9, 2023 1:15:33 GMT
I suggest you watch the whole 90 seconds passage from 4.20 in the interview. Absolutely no doubt the words she used blamed the whole problem on 'British Pakistanis' www.youtube.com/watch?v=us4wWNUhdgsI don't know whether it is heart warming, in the fact that it takes an ethnic minority person (Suella Braverman) to speak up on behalf of thousands of young white women like that, or deeply worrying that in today's society a white politician will shy away from calling out such behaviour on the basis of ethnic background due to the inevitable avalanche of accusations that will hound him or her around until they are out of job. This ultimately means only people of colour with the balls to call out such behaviour know they cannot be accused of 'racism', and are needed for the defence of the white majority in such cases who often get overlooked by the pandering left. Such people like Braverman need to be cherished.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 9, 2023 1:19:22 GMT
I suggest you watch the whole 90 seconds passage from 4.20 in the interview. Absolutely no doubt the words she used blamed the whole problem on 'British Pakistanis' www.youtube.com/watch?v=us4wWNUhdgsYup, it's quite outrageous how Sophie Ridge let her get away with it. Your comment here is more outrageous.
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Post by Steve on Apr 9, 2023 9:42:33 GMT
I suggest you watch the whole 90 seconds passage from 4.20 in the interview. Absolutely no doubt the words she used blamed the whole problem on 'British Pakistanis' www.youtube.com/watch?v=us4wWNUhdgsI don't know whether it is heart warming, in the fact that it takes an ethnic minority person (Suella Braverman) to speak up on behalf of thousands of young white women like that, or deeply worrying that in today's society a white politician will shy away from calling out such behaviour on the basis of ethnic background due to the inevitable avalanche of accusations that will hound him or her around until they are out of job. This ultimately means only people of colour with the balls to call out such behaviour know they cannot be accused of 'racism', and are needed for the defence of the white majority in such cases who often get overlooked by the pandering left. Such people like Braverman need to be cherished. Delusional ^ Thousands and thousands have spoken up for the victims Only one public figure has used their position to pursue their apparent hate of all ethnic Pakistanis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2023 9:50:48 GMT
Everyone who challenged Labour over this were smeared as a racist and a Nazi when they were in power. Even today those who are only interested in attacking the people who dare challenge the politically correctness, and the draconian laws that go along with it, have to deal with bullshit claims that they "hate of all ethnic Pakistanis", which is clearly a terror tactic.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 9, 2023 11:40:35 GMT
I don't know whether it is heart warming, in the fact that it takes an ethnic minority person (Suella Braverman) to speak up on behalf of thousands of young white women like that, or deeply worrying that in today's society a white politician will shy away from calling out such behaviour on the basis of ethnic background due to the inevitable avalanche of accusations that will hound him or her around until they are out of job. This ultimately means only people of colour with the balls to call out such behaviour know they cannot be accused of 'racism', and are needed for the defence of the white majority in such cases who often get overlooked by the pandering left. Such people like Braverman need to be cherished. Delusional ^ Thousands and thousands have spoken up for the victims Only one public figure has used their position to pursue their apparent hate of all ethnic Pakistanis. Who in government or opposition has called this particular issue out in relation to Pakistani grooming gangs, and noted most of all the young victims were white females?
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Post by sandypine on Apr 9, 2023 14:23:13 GMT
I don't know whether it is heart warming, in the fact that it takes an ethnic minority person (Suella Braverman) to speak up on behalf of thousands of young white women like that, or deeply worrying that in today's society a white politician will shy away from calling out such behaviour on the basis of ethnic background due to the inevitable avalanche of accusations that will hound him or her around until they are out of job. This ultimately means only people of colour with the balls to call out such behaviour know they cannot be accused of 'racism', and are needed for the defence of the white majority in such cases who often get overlooked by the pandering left. Such people like Braverman need to be cherished. Delusional ^ Thousands and thousands have spoken up for the victims Only one public figure has used their position to pursue their apparent hate of all ethnic Pakistanis. It is speaking out against the perpetrators that brings down the proverbial ton of bricks. Ann Cryer “You need to be brave to take on this issue because you will be called a racist,” BNP highlight the problem they are the ones taken to court. Sarah Champion MP said there was a problem and lost her front bench position. Keith Osmund-Smith was suspended. Jack Straw was widely criticised for making comments. Now Suella Braverman is receiving the same identical criticism. Some things do not change'
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 10, 2023 7:13:14 GMT
I suggest you watch the whole 90 seconds passage from 4.20 in the interview. Absolutely no doubt the words she used blamed the whole problem on 'British Pakistanis' www.youtube.com/watch?v=us4wWNUhdgsYup, it's quite outrageous how Sophie Ridge let her get away with it. Sophie Ridge didn't "let her get away with it" - she countered that "most grooming gangs were white", which is not true. There's a lot of ignorance around this problem and statistics are being used misleadingly. There's a low level (about 0.1%) of sex crime throughout the population which afflicts all groups. These are people who know the law and know what they're doing is wrong but do it anyway, and most of the perpetrators are white - for the simple reason that most of UK population is white. But there's a separate class of sex crime that involves gangs of men who target vulnerable young girls. These people do not regard what they're doing as wrong - because in their culture/religion it's NOT regarded as wrong in the Koran. That's why they do it openly and why it's done on such an industrial scale - way over 0.1%. In fact "Hundreds" of muslim men were involved in abusing at least 1400 girls in Rotherham - a town with a total muslim population of about 10,000. The trouble is that you won't find this reflected in the Home Office figures because almost NONE of the hundreds of muslim men were even arrested for their offences, because of "cultural sensitivities" and even fewer were convicted. Also the police recording of perpetrator's ethnicity is very patchy so it's usually not obvious that the offender is Pakistani.
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 11, 2023 6:17:11 GMT
I see that the BBC is now pushing the narrative that the "facts" are that Pakistanis are not over-represented in grooming crimes. Mishal Hussein on Today gave a very supportive interview to a muslim woman who is demanding that Braverman and Sunak make an apology for their comments. And, of course, the source for her "facts" is the Home Office's own report on CSE which states that no ethnic group is over-represented in CSE. I think Braverman really needs to nail this. The Home Office report is based on misleading data as I've said and needs to be addressed. Frankly it beggars belief that muslims are trying to claim that they're not responsible for most of this crime. Next they'll be trying to claim that they're not responsible for most terrorism. Oh hang on, they already are. Braverman needs to point out a few facts to the muslims.
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Post by Steve on Apr 11, 2023 10:51:19 GMT
Delusional ^ Thousands and thousands have spoken up for the victims Only one public figure has used their position to pursue their apparent hate of all ethnic Pakistanis. Who in government or opposition has called this particular issue out in relation to Pakistani grooming gangs, and noted most of all the young victims were white females? So you want politicians to dishonestly say it was all Pakistanis Please hold your breath waiting although I'm sure 30pLee will be along to say such and save your life
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 11, 2023 10:56:49 GMT
Who in government or opposition has called this particular issue out in relation to Pakistani grooming gangs, and noted most of all the young victims were white females? So you want politicians to dishonestly say it was all Pakistanis Please hold your breath waiting although I'm sure 30pLee will be along to say such and save your life So, in answer to my question your answer is nobody. That, what Braverman says is refreshingly honest. Noting it is an issue within a Pakistani group. You may want to turn the other cheek and avoid robust, rigorous and honest discussions just like the authorities did, but at least Braverman doesn't.
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Post by Steve on Apr 11, 2023 10:59:45 GMT
It was factually incorrect dog whistle racism by the worst Home Secretary we have ever had
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Post by Orac on Apr 11, 2023 11:02:54 GMT
Braverman didn't say anything in particular was entirely (only) Pakistani. This has been pointed out to several times, but it seems you need a strawman or you have no point.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 11, 2023 11:06:56 GMT
It was factually incorrect dog whistle racism by the worst Home Secretary we have ever had In your opinion, which I believe to be total and utter rubbish.
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Post by Steve on Apr 11, 2023 11:28:19 GMT
Braverman didn't say anything in particular was entirely (only) Pakistani. This has been pointed out to several times, but it seems you need a strawman or you have no point. No I explained it in detail. But of course that was unpopular with those who want to see ethnic Pakistanis take the whole blame
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Post by Steve on Apr 11, 2023 11:29:17 GMT
It was factually incorrect dog whistle racism by the worst Home Secretary we have ever had In your opinion, which I believe to be total and utter rubbish. So? Your belief has no more value than mine. Try using evidence as I did
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