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Post by buccaneer on Mar 20, 2023 20:48:49 GMT
Are you saying the British should be more like the French and take to the streets, burn their cities and start riots? Oracle likes to pretend everything on the continent is sunny lit uplands and that Britain has regressed only because of a vote on EU membership. Of course, we know that isn't the case. So, when there is a thread showing the violent troubles France is currently dealing with, this becomes an awkward moment for someone like Oracle. Who then suggests that Brit's no know nothing about the French way of life and their work life balance (lol), as though this is a valid excuse for them to behave in such a thuggish manner. Yet, the point remains, France like any other country has their own problems. Yet, people like Oracle pretend it is just Brexit Britain that has issues with inflation and such like. We know this to be dishonest and driven out of frustration because the UK left their club. They can't seem to get over it and move on. I am telling you from daily experience. The people and largely the political class in the EU DONT CARE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE UK. The UK is hardly ever mentioned. There is no angst or interest. Some are pleased the UK left because it was always creating trouble. The only people who mention Brexit and insist on reliving 2016 are people like you who insist on playing the event on a constant loop. The UK is of no interest to the EU. If businesses want to trade, fine. But politically the UK is inert.no more relevant than any other third country. The UK really should stop thinking it is important. No one else thinks so. So why are you on here whining about Brexit on a constant loop? |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 21, 2023 7:43:34 GMT
I am telling you from daily experience. The people and largely the political class in the EU DONT CARE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE UK. The UK is hardly ever mentioned. There is no angst or interest. Some are pleased the UK left because it was always creating trouble. The only people who mention Brexit and insist on reliving 2016 are people like you who insist on playing the event on a constant loop. The UK is of no interest to the EU. If businesses want to trade, fine. But politically the UK is inert.no more relevant than any other third country. The UK really should stop thinking it is important. No one else thinks so. So why are you on here whining about Brexit on a constant loop? Obviously France is having a slow news day/week/month/year/decade...  |
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 21, 2023 10:28:41 GMT
Well the French government survived.
No catastrophes.
Nothing to gloat over.
No Daily Mail headlines there.
Time to move on.
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 21, 2023 10:30:37 GMT
Well the French government survived. No catastrophes. Nothing to gloat over. No Daily Mail headlines there. Time to move on. Let's hope the violence, rioting and strikes stop then. After all, you know more about French work/life balance than anyone!  |
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 21, 2023 10:34:15 GMT
Well, anyone in here it seems.
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 21, 2023 10:36:14 GMT
Well, anyone in here it seems. Imagination & figment spring to mind. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 22, 2023 6:22:42 GMT
Well, anyone in here it seems. Imagination & figment spring to mind. Micron under pressure as violent protests spark Frexit calls over pension reform chaos Story by Alessandra Scotto di Santolo • Yesterday 12:10
MP Mathilde Panot said. "Only nine votes are missing ... to bring both the government down and its reform down.
"The government is already dead in the eyes of the Frogs, it doesn't have any legitimacy anymore."
The Senate, dominated by conservatives who back the retirement plan, approved the legislation last week.
The head of The Republicans' MPs, Olivier Marleix, earlier explained why his group would reject the motions.
He said during the debate Monday afternoon: "We acknowledge the need for reform to save our pension system and defend retirees' purchasing power.
A minority of conservative lawmakers strayed from the party line and voted in favor of the first motion.
Frogland like many richer nations, has a low birth rate and its citizens have a longer life expectancy.
The tensions in the political arena have been echoed on the streets, marked by intermittent protests and strikes in various sectors, including transportation, energy and sanitation workers. Garbage in Paris has piled ever higher and reeked of rotting food on the 15th day of a strike by collectors. The three main incinerators serving the French capital have been mostly blocked, as has a garbage sorting centre northwest of Paris.
On Monday, hundreds of mainly young protesters gathered by Les Invalides, the final resting place of Napoleon, to demonstrate against pension reform. Some trash bins were set on fire in early evening, but the protest was otherwise calm. Participants listened to the proceedings in the National Assembly through a channel broadcast on loudspeaker from a union van.
Some refineries that supply gas stations also are at least partially blocked, and Transport Minister Clement Beaune said on Frog-Info radio Monday that he would take action if necessary to ensure that fuel still gets out.
Frog President Emmanuel Micron pushed his pension reform bill without MPs' approval, sparking violent protests and calls for France to leave the EU. The legislation still faces a review by the Constitutional Council before it can be signed into law. The council has the power to reject articles within bills but usually approves them.
Micron's controversial reform has sparked renewed calls for Frexit - a French departure from the EUSSR.
Brussels is being blamed by some in the country for the legislation being pushed in exchange for Next Generation funds.
Generation Frexit leader Charles-Henri Gallois said: "When I called to beat Micron in the second round of the 2022 presidential election, some people said to me, stupidly repeating the language of power: 'Do you realise the chaos if Marine Le Pen is elected?'
"I told them: 'It is the opposite, if Micron is elected then you will have chaos!'"
The first no-confidence motion, proposed by a small centrist group with support across the left, narrowly missed approval by National Assembly MPs Monday afternoon, garnering 278 of the 287 votes needed to pass. The second motion, brought by the far-right National Rally, won just 94 votes in the chamber.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 23, 2023 16:16:55 GMT
This is yet another reason to bless Maggie Thatcher. She defeated the socialist state so that Britain can be run effectively, rather than being run by unions etc, coal being the obvious battle ground. There are strikes and demos in France because the pension age in France is due to rise from 62 to 64. In the UK, state pension age is currently 66, but it is rising in stages to 68 for people born in 1979 and after — not sure how Thatcher can be blamed or praised for that...
Raising the pension age to 68 has been put on hold and may be scrapped due to lower life expectancy in the future. Personally, and call me a cynic, I think the government will announce the pension age will be raised to 68 "after" the next general election. We'll see. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 24, 2023 3:18:47 GMT
Well, it got rid of the Poll Tax didn’t it. But perhaps all i’m really saying is we get the government our apathy towards their acts deserves…. I agree to an extent, but it generally isn't in the Brit's psyche to turn to violence and rioting every time the government does something they don't like. I can't imagine the French sitting around allowing a foreign entity like the EU to partly annex part of their sovereign territory like the EU has done with Northern Ireland. The Brit's are generally docile when it comes to politics. After all, look how the UK stealthily fed into becoming an EU member in the first place. However, if that (rioting) started happening right now could you imagine the ammunition it would give to Europhiles and continentals as they sit back and watch lawless Little Britain burn like France is currently doing? It would be the 'that's because you left the EU' narrative. For the time being, I'm just content watching France burn to Macron's undemocratic manoeuvres whilst ridiculous excuses are made up on here for that behaviour - because such folk have tried to tell us only the UK has problems. The flaw in your argument being it depends what we were rioting over As an example, the twat in the bay has demanded even more fines be paid by councils not meeting recycling targets which was originally driven by the green cardigan wearing tree huggers in the german green movement. We are now officially fuck all to do with them, so we could give this the finger, but the twat in the bay, who refused point blank to prepare Welsh ports for brexit, saying and i quote verbatim ‘if a lot of silly people had not voted to leave they would not now be in the state they are’ through his refusal to take action in line with the majority decision in wales. The irony is newport is the top performing council but is being penalised further. In years past i’d say its because we speak too much english but if you stand in a lidl in the shithole, tge only languages you hear are of asylum seekers. Given this twat is also on record as finding the violence of the welsh language protests when he was a young man ‘quite exciting’ i think perhaps he should be given some excitement of the sort the french are handing to a town hall …. |
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 24, 2023 7:37:32 GMT
I carefully watched coverage of the Paris riots and it was clear that the demo started peacefully but was taken over by left and/or extremists as the genuine demonstrators stood back and watched. I get the feeling that these riots are less about pensions and more about an excuse to riot by extremists taking advantage. Not by any means for the first time. www.france24.com/en/20190330-bordeaux-shutdown-yellow-vest-protests |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 24, 2023 7:59:34 GMT
This is yet another reason to bless Maggie Thatcher. She defeated the socialist state so that Britain can be run effectively, rather than being run by unions etc, coal being the obvious battle ground. Unions are run by communists who are not interested in reaching a fair agreement, but are intent on destroying democracy, as seen above, to be replaced by communism, or a fascist state. The change Britain went through has yet to be done in France. Macron knows the financial realities, bread cant be buttered on both sides. And he will fail, France is reactionary, and it will end badly. Growing up hurts. Well I am very proud to declare that I was one of those people who helped to bring Maggie down, because I was involved with the campaign against the Poll Tax. Since the privatisation of British Telecom, British Gas, our Electricity Boards, Water, Trains and Buses, the service is considerably worse. No one ever answers a telephone, and instead we spend hours listening to music with the occassional voice which states "your call is important to us" ( which is a lie, because if it was important to them, they would answer ), and if you do eventually get through, you can hardly understand what they are saying because its English with a Mumbai accent. They said prices would be cheaper because of privatisation ( theres a laugh ), but instead the directors and shareholders in France are laughing all the way to the bank. Here in the North of England, planning a journey by train is a bit like a One Armed Bandit, the train MIGHT turn up, and you might be lucky, but its as likely it wont, or the train does turn up but only takes you half way to the destination because of "staffing issues" ( everyone OFF and hop on the bus ). Our Gas and Electricity companies were For The People, it was "Service" first and "Service" last, profits helped to keep a huge network of high street shops in our towns, an access point to YOUR local electric or gas board, where you could buy a torch or a cooker, pay your bill, report a fault, or talk to Mary or Jack behind the desk. EVERYTHING that has been privatised provides a worse, more expensive service, and a service where no one cares or gives a damn. All part of being in the single market. State monopolies are illegal. Competition is mandatory. Didn't you know? |
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 24, 2023 9:42:55 GMT
Stop telling lies Vinny.
The French railways are state ownwd.
The airlines are state owned.
The nucleat power stations and other energy generation are publically owned.l
The air and sea rescue is state owned.
The military is state owned.
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 24, 2023 12:23:07 GMT
The King's State visit to France next week now called off - apparently the French are having some security issues..
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 24, 2023 14:49:21 GMT
The King's State visit to France next week now called off - apparently the French are having some security issues.. Surely not, Oracle has told us everything in Europe is fine and Dandy. That is embarrassing for Macron. |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 24, 2023 15:09:34 GMT
Saw this comment online, did make me laugh: "Well I suppose the dinghy people now have a legitimate excuse to cross the channel." Macron comparing it to the riots on US Capitol. Anything bad for France is good for Britain.  |
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