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Post by jonksy on Mar 19, 2023 7:13:22 GMT
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 20, 2023 13:31:28 GMT
Heres another one from Edinburgh www.scotsman.com/news/crime/trio-convicted-gang-raping-young-edinburgh-mother-2000-have-cases-referred-high-court-light-fresh-evidence-3110169This one is particularly vile from last year and involves physical abuse against children, gang rape and attempted murder www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/9242648/glasgow-paedophile-ring-accused-townhead-court/An intelligent person would understand that an Asian man who commits rape, doesn't do so because he is Asian, and neither does he commit such a crime because he is of a particular faith. So let me explain it to you In the Middle East, a common means of implementing the Death Penalty was "Stoning To Death", but ask most white British people and they would associate this form of barbaric punishment with Islam or Muslims, and that assumption has SOME truth in it. But in reality "Stoning To Death" predates Islam, and it was probably first used by a much older religion ( Zoroastrianism), this method of capital punishment was also widely used by Christians, and by some Jews, and my point here is that the practice is "Cultural" as against apertaining to any particular faith. GROOMING GANGS The vast majority of men involved in grooming gangs are of Pakistani origin, and so I suppose you could say that most grooming gangs are Muslims - well of course they are, because 96% of Pakistani's are Muslim. HOWEVER, the problem here is "Cultural", it has nothing to do with faith. There are 4.5 million Hindus in Pakistan, and around 2.5 million Christians - and guess what , there is little difference between how Pakistani Christian men view women and how Pakistani Muslim men view women. There is a problem, and I have never argued otherwise, and its a problem amongst a particular class of Pakistani men, and the route out of it ( in my opinion ) is EDUCATION. Whenever you come across an Asian grooming gang, they are very rarely ever Syrian, or Afghan, or Iraqi, they are mostly Pakistani ..... Its a CULTURAL problem originating from Pakistan. There is a problem - and its to do with mindset, its to do with outdated and unaccptable views on women That doesn’t change the fact the government did its damndest to conceal this though does it
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 20, 2023 13:33:16 GMT
Sir Keir Starmer was head of the CPS between 2008 and 2013, but unless any case is refered to the CPS, then obviously Keir Starmer wont know anything about the case(s), and even then the head of the service is not knowledgeable of every case, how could they be. Rotherham - First successfull convictions came in 2010 Derby - undercover investigation in 2009 / 2010 led to the successfull prosecution by the CPS and police Telford - successfull convictions which came from trials lasting 2 years and concluded in 2013, the abuse in Telford had been going on since the 1970s. Oxford - successfull prosecutions concluding in 2013 It seems to me that during Keir Starmers time as head of the CPS, an awful lot of successfull prosecutions took place against child sex gangs I think that the allegations and insinuations aimed at Keir Starmer are sick, and those posters who suggest that the Labour leader somehow covered up or brushed aside child sex abuse allegations are sick in the head, and clearly resort to childish, gutter tactics to smear an opponent. The very same pathetic allegations were thrown at Keir Starmer regarding Jimmy Saville, and Richard Scorer, Britains leading and most successfull lawyer in bringing convictions against child sex abusers stated this "as one of the lawyers wo represented Savilles victims, I can confirm that attacks on Keir Starmer are totally unjustified. Starmer did more than any other DPP to advance the rights of victims. No DPP can control every decision, but the CPS was much better under his leadership.
Has Starmer ACTUALLY prosecuted a rapist? He’s very fond of SAYING he has
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 20, 2023 13:35:35 GMT
Sir Keir Starmer was head of the CPS between 2008 and 2013, but unless any case is refered to the CPS, then obviously Keir Starmer wont know anything about the case(s), and even then the head of the service is not knowledgeable of every case, how could they be. Rotherham - First successfull convictions came in 2010 Derby - undercover investigation in 2009 / 2010 led to the successfull prosecution by the CPS and police Telford - successfull convictions which came from trials lasting 2 years and concluded in 2013, the abuse in Telford had been going on since the 1970s. Oxford - successfull prosecutions concluding in 2013 It seems to me that during Keir Starmers time as head of the CPS, an awful lot of successfull prosecutions took place against child sex gangs I think that the allegations and insinuations aimed at Keir Starmer are sick, and those posters who suggest that the Labour leader somehow covered up or brushed aside child sex abuse allegations are sick in the head, and clearly resort to childish, gutter tactics to smear an opponent. The very same pathetic allegations were thrown at Keir Starmer regarding Jimmy Saville, and Richard Scorer, Britains leading and most successfull lawyer in bringing convictions against child sex abusers stated this "as one of the lawyers wo represented Savilles victims, I can confirm that attacks on Keir Starmer are totally unjustified. Starmer did more than any other DPP to advance the rights of victims. No DPP can control every decision, but the CPS was much better under his leadership.
Has Starmer ACTUALLY prosecuted a rapist? He’s very fond of SAYING he has Don't believe a word that comes out of that mans mouth.
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 20, 2023 14:04:31 GMT
Has Starmer ACTUALLY prosecuted a rapist? He’s very fond of SAYING he has Don't believe a word that comes out of that mans mouth. Well exactly, but i was asking if anyone had a real record of his actually having done so. I suppose i could barge into the wife’s office at the ministry of justice nick her computer and search the database the law society charges its members an arm and a leg to access the judges and court report from but i feel having to explain ‘select * from casefile where offence = rape and prosecuting counsel = ‘starmer’ might raise a few eyebrows. I did try google but it didn't seem very helpful
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 20, 2023 15:49:05 GMT
Don't believe a word that comes out of that mans mouth. Well exactly, but i was asking if anyone had a real record of his actually having done so. I suppose i could barge into the wife’s office at the ministry of justice nick her computer and search the database the law society charges its members an arm and a leg to access the judges and court report from but i feel having to explain ‘select * from casefile where offence = rape and prosecuting counsel = ‘starmer’ might raise a few eyebrows. I did try google but it didn't seem very helpful Starmer has a way of making things disappear, it's the perks of being a ex-DPP.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 20, 2023 15:50:47 GMT
Well exactly, but i was asking if anyone had a real record of his actually having done so. I suppose i could barge into the wife’s office at the ministry of justice nick her computer and search the database the law society charges its members an arm and a leg to access the judges and court report from but i feel having to explain ‘select * from casefile where offence = rape and prosecuting counsel = ‘starmer’ might raise a few eyebrows. I did try google but it didn't seem very helpful Starmer has a way of making things disappear, it's the perks of being a ex-DPP. Maybe he used the worn out shredders blair had used.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 20, 2023 15:56:59 GMT
Starmer has a way of making things disappear, it's the perks of being a ex-DPP. Maybe he used the worn out shredders blair had used. LOL ...If only we could make Starmer disappear.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 20, 2023 16:00:00 GMT
Maybe he used the worn out shredders blair had used. LOL ...If only we could make Starmer disappear. And his dog...
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 20, 2023 16:07:59 GMT
LOL ...If only we could make Starmer disappear. And his dog... LOL
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 21, 2023 17:47:50 GMT
Home Secretary taking no prisoners in the House - the look on the Labour girls face is a picture..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 18:59:05 GMT
Not really sub judice, then?
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Post by sandypine on Mar 21, 2023 22:06:09 GMT
Not really sub judice, then? Yes I thought that as he was convicted and is in prison.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 22, 2023 11:18:48 GMT
There's going to be more riots outside the boat peoples Liverpool hotel. www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/woman-raped-city-centre-alleyway-26529502A woman was reportedly raped in Liverpool city centre. The victim, in her 20s, said she was sexually assaulted by a man on Temple Lane, an alleyway off Victoria Street. The incident happened close to OMG Liverpool nightclub. **All thanks to the likes of jug ears, hope he's proud of himself.
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