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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 18, 2023 10:36:08 GMT
No, not just because of a hug. You're trivialising what happened. Read the article. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11864767/Woman-received-unwanted-sexual-attention-work-party-awarded-19-000-damages-tribunal.htmlOne of her colleagues had made comments about her breasts and cleavage and hugged her from behind without her consent. He also suggested to her that that they might have an affair and touched her bottom in the restaurant. (The woman is sixty years old!) Then, when she filed a complaint, three of her colleagues intimidated her and threatened to 'take her down' with intimidating and abusive language and behaviour to the point where she no longer felt safe in the workplace and was forced to resign. That is why she won the judgment. I have read the article, and I'm saddened that today, in woke UK a white hetrosexual man can be penalised for just about anything. When I left school in 1975, I worked in department store that was 90% female. They used to trick me into the stockroom, as soon as I walked in, the lights would go out and they would ambush me, Christ there were hands everywhere. They didn't rape me, but they did just about everything else. After a while I used to go to the stockroom without being called, it was epic. Of course these days I could sue the company for millions and have those girls, who were older than me, thrown in jail for sexual offences that would blight them for life. What a sad country we have become. Yes i recall being warned of the dangers of certain areas of the office back in the eighties and in the factory i did all the automated robotic stuff for not five years ago three of the ladies managing the materials supply for the robot assembly line warned me how ill advised I would be to attend a breakdown callout alone in certain areas of the plant. I honestly never worked out if half what i was being told in either place or various others was bullshit but i never gave anyone the chance to prove it. I don’t know how i would have reacted. I recall as a barely 20 year old walking into a big hall at of all things a church retreat where the equivalent of a synod was mixed with a week in the yorkshire dales. Moira was then just a girlfriend …. Anyway i walked into a hall and as i did thirty women looked at me and one shouted ‘there’s one’ I wasn’t stopping to find out what. But i was a 10k runner not a sprinter. The pack brought me down on the croquet lawn and dragged me into the hall…. It was one of those bloody stupid musical chairs games where you could not sit down unless you had an object … Ten seconds before i entered the room the compere had declared the object to be a gentleman wearing a brown tie…. He didn’t make that mistake again but i was utterly scarred by the whole experience … |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 12:03:32 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 18, 2023 12:33:41 GMT
Different scenario, it involved alcohol and drunk people in a hotel, we know how many footballers have been wrongly accused of these crimes, these aren't 'three stone cold sober British Whites' who dragged a woman down a alleyway then gang raped her. This was premeditated gang rape by black men. Nice try though. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 13:41:27 GMT
Heres another one from Edinburgh www.scotsman.com/news/crime/trio-convicted-gang-raping-young-edinburgh-mother-2000-have-cases-referred-high-court-light-fresh-evidence-3110169This one is particularly vile from last year and involves physical abuse against children, gang rape and attempted murder www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/9242648/glasgow-paedophile-ring-accused-townhead-court/An intelligent person would understand that an Asian man who commits rape, doesn't do so because he is Asian, and neither does he commit such a crime because he is of a particular faith. So let me explain it to you In the Middle East, a common means of implementing the Death Penalty was "Stoning To Death", but ask most white British people and they would associate this form of barbaric punishment with Islam or Muslims, and that assumption has SOME truth in it. But in reality "Stoning To Death" predates Islam, and it was probably first used by a much older religion ( Zoroastrianism), this method of capital punishment was also widely used by Christians, and by some Jews, and my point here is that the practice is "Cultural" as against apertaining to any particular faith. GROOMING GANGS The vast majority of men involved in grooming gangs are of Pakistani origin, and so I suppose you could say that most grooming gangs are Muslims - well of course they are, because 96% of Pakistani's are Muslim. HOWEVER, the problem here is "Cultural", it has nothing to do with faith. There are 4.5 million Hindus in Pakistan, and around 2.5 million Christians - and guess what ?, there is little difference between how Pakistani Christian men view women and how Pakistani Muslim men view women. There is a problem, and I have never argued otherwise, and its a problem amongst a particular class of Pakistani men, and the route out of it ( in my opinion ) is EDUCATION. Whenever you come across an Asian grooming gang, they are very rarely ever Syrian, or Afghan, or Iraqi, they are mostly Pakistani ..... Its a CULTURAL problem originating from Pakistan. There is a problem - and its to do with mindset, its to do with outdated and unaccptable views on women |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 18, 2023 16:19:20 GMT
Heres another one from Edinburgh www.scotsman.com/news/crime/trio-convicted-gang-raping-young-edinburgh-mother-2000-have-cases-referred-high-court-light-fresh-evidence-3110169This one is particularly vile from last year and involves physical abuse against children, gang rape and attempted murder www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/9242648/glasgow-paedophile-ring-accused-townhead-court/An intelligent person would understand that an Asian man who commits rape, doesn't do so because he is Asian, and neither does he commit such a crime because he is of a particular faith. So let me explain it to you In the Middle East, a common means of implementing the Death Penalty was "Stoning To Death", but ask most white British people and they would associate this form of barbaric punishment with Islam or Muslims, and that assumption has SOME truth in it. But in reality "Stoning To Death" predates Islam, and it was probably first used by a much older religion ( Zoroastrianism), this method of capital punishment was also widely used by Christians, and by some Jews, and my point here is that the practice is "Cultural" as against apertaining to any particular faith. GROOMING GANGS The vast majority of men involved in grooming gangs are of Pakistani origin, and so I suppose you could say that most grooming gangs are Muslims - well of course they are, because 96% of Pakistani's are Muslim. HOWEVER, the problem here is "Cultural", it has nothing to do with faith. There are 4.5 million Hindus in Pakistan, and around 2.5 million Christians - and guess what , there is little difference between how Pakistani Christian men view women and how Pakistani Muslim men view women. There is a problem, and I have never argued otherwise, and its a problem amongst a particular class of Pakistani men, and the route out of it ( in my opinion ) is EDUCATION. Whenever you come across an Asian grooming gang, they are very rarely ever Syrian, or Afghan, or Iraqi, they are mostly Pakistani ..... Its a CULTURAL problem originating from Pakistan. There is a problem - and its to do with mindset, its to do with outdated and unaccptable views on women Actually you have no idea. There are those who would be severely punished by members of their own faith were they to be found to have raped someone of their own faith, it's why in many casers they choose to rape someone outside their faith; it's also made easier by many women outside that faith being short on moral compass and less likely to complain. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 16:28:18 GMT
Actually you have no idea. There are those who would be severely punished by members of their own faith were they to be found to have raped someone of their own faith, it's why in many casers they choose to rape someone outside their faith; it's also made easier by many women outside that faith being short on moral compass and less likely to complain. They do this everytime. Deflect the blame away to protect their asset, which in this case is a trio of gang rapists. I guess they have a lot in common. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 18, 2023 16:42:51 GMT
If three white British males gang rapped a Muslim woman they wouldn't see a court, the Muslim community would make sure of that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 16:58:00 GMT
If three white British males gang rapped a Muslim woman they wouldn't see a court, the Muslim community would make sure of that. If that happened there'd be riots and parts of our heritage would be destroyed, whilst all of these Starmer henchmen on here would be encouraging it if not taking part. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 18, 2023 16:59:33 GMT
If three white British males gang rapped a Muslim woman they wouldn't see a court, the Muslim community would make sure of that. If that happened there'd be riots and parts of our heritage would be destroyed, whilst all of these Starmer henchmen on here would be encouraging it if not taking part. Exactly. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 18, 2023 17:01:20 GMT
If three white British males gang rapped a Muslim woman they wouldn't see a court, the Muslim community would make sure of that. If that happened there'd be riots and parts of our heritage would be destroyed, whilst all of these Starmer henchmen on here would be encouraging it if not taking part. They would be charged (if it ever got to court, because they'd be bumped off) with rape, hate crime, racism and sentenced to at least 30 years 'Each'. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 18, 2023 17:04:04 GMT
If that happened there'd be riots and parts of our heritage would be destroyed, whilst all of these Starmer henchmen on here would be encouraging it if not taking part. They would be charged (if it ever got to court, because they'd be bumped off) with rape, hate crime, racism and sentenced to at least 30 years 'Each'. I'd be happy with that, I'm 86 and have no objection to reaching 116 in jail.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 17:41:18 GMT
Toreador ... Actually you have no idea. There are those who would be severely punished by members of their own faith were they to be found to have raped someone of their own faith, it's why in many casers they choose to rape someone outside their faith; it's also made easier by many women outside that faith being short on moral compass and less likely to complain.
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I think that you are entering into the Realms of Pigeon-holing, stereotyping and taring all with the same brush.
The vast majority of British Muslims are not terrorists, do not support terrorism, and are also not members of grooming gangs, or support the raping of women. But unfortunately some do, and too many of them.
The debate is been lowered to THEM and US, them dirty Muslims again, the kind of rhetoric and language which helps to fuel division and hatred.
A criminal in my book is a criminal regardless of their religious or ethnic background, and the problem we have had with grooming gangs has nothing to do with faith.
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Post by Toreador on Mar 18, 2023 17:43:01 GMT
Toreador ... Actually you have no idea. There are those who would be severely punished by members of their own faith were they to be found to have raped someone of their own faith, it's why in many casers they choose to rape someone outside their faith; it's also made easier by many women outside that faith being short on moral compass and less likely to complain. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I think that you are entering into the Realms of Pigeon-holing, stereotyping and taring all with the same brush. The vast majority of British Muslims are not terrorists, do not support terrorism, and are also not members of grooming gangs, or support the raping of women. But unfortunately some do, and too many of them. The debate is been lowered to THEM and US, them dirty Muslims again, the kind of rhetoric and language which helps to fuel division and hatred. A criminal in my book is a criminal regardless of their religious or ethnic background, and the problem we have had with grooming gangs has nothing to do with faith. Like I said. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 17:48:49 GMT
I have absolutely no idea why the leader of the Labour Party has been brought into this debate, more false narrative and bull shit.
No one did more to bring about justice against grooming gangs whilst head of the Crown Prosecution Service
I suppose it shows how bitter and twisted some posters are
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 17:54:12 GMT
If that happened there'd be riots and parts of our heritage would be destroyed, whilst all of these Starmer henchmen on here would be encouraging it if not taking part. They would be charged (if it ever got to court, because they'd be bumped off) with rape, hate crime, racism and sentenced to at least 30 years 'Each'. True, and the racists on the Left would be pushing for all of it. Funny how they do nothing but twist it and deflect attention elsewhere when it's their asset (how they see people) are behind it. Of course, I am opposed to all forms of rape and violence, regardless of who's behind it. |
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