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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 17:55:15 GMT
I have absolutely no idea why the leader of the Labour Party has been brought into this debate, more false narrative and bull shit. No one did more to bring about justice against grooming gangs whilst head of the Crown Prosecution Service I suppose it shows how bitter and twisted some posters are It was the Labour councils and the Labour corrupt social services that allowed that to continue for years. It only began to get the much needed attention after the Tories were elected into power.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 18, 2023 18:04:08 GMT
They would be charged (if it ever got to court, because they'd be bumped off) with rape, hate crime, racism and sentenced to at least 30 years 'Each'. True, and the racists on the Left would be pushing for all of it. Funny how they do nothing but twist it and deflect attention elsewhere when it's their asset (how they see people) are behind it. Of course, I am opposed to all forms of rape and violence, regardless of who's behind it. These three black males will be charged with gang rape (which is horrendous in itself) but if the victim was White British female, they will NOT be charged with a hate crime or racism, yet we know if it was 3 White British males it would be demanded they were charged with a hate crime and racism if the victim was a female Muslim.
Absolutely agree opposing all forms of rape and violence, the perpetrators should face the wrath of the courts and the people.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 18, 2023 18:04:35 GMT
I have absolutely no idea why the leader of the Labour Party has been brought into this debate, more false narrative and bull shit. No one did more to bring about justice against grooming gangs whilst head of the Crown Prosecution Service I suppose it shows how bitter and twisted some posters are Does that include local Labour councils burying it in league with social services and even the local police?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 18:14:59 GMT
I have absolutely no idea why the leader of the Labour Party has been brought into this debate, more false narrative and bull shit. No one did more to bring about justice against grooming gangs whilst head of the Crown Prosecution Service I suppose it shows how bitter and twisted some posters are It was the Labour councils and the Labour corrupt social services that allowed that to continue for years. It only began to get the much needed attention after the Tories were elected into power. More false testiment - the Rotherham case for example first began in the late 1980s ( who was in government then ), and its utterly ridiculous beyond measure to suggest that any political party in this country would turn a blind eye to the sexual abuse of children. The failings in the most part were down to Social Services and the Police, and neither Social Services or the Police are governed by rules or codes set out by local authorities, both operate by National Standards, meaning that it was "people" who failed those children, senior police officers and decision makers who work for Social Services. It was individuals who made wrong decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 18:17:12 GMT
There's nothing ridiculous about it. That's exactly what happened under New Labour. Everyone who challenged it were attacked and smeared as racists. Those victims were sacrificed for an ideology that nobody in this country asked for. An ideology that Labour pushed without any mandate.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 18, 2023 18:20:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 18:27:11 GMT
I think the author of that site took impartiality tips from the BBC.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 18, 2023 18:28:01 GMT
It was the Labour councils and the Labour corrupt social services that allowed that to continue for years. It only began to get the much needed attention after the Tories were elected into power. More false testiment - the Rotherham case for example first began in the late 1980s ( who was in government then ), and its utterly ridiculous beyond measure to suggest that any political party in this country would turn a blind eye to the sexual abuse of children. The failings in the most part were down to Social Services and the Police, and neither Social Services or the Police are governed by rules or codes set out by local authorities, both operate by National Standards, meaning that it was "people" who failed those children, senior police officers and decision makers who work for Social Services. It was individuals who made wrong decisions. Do remind us all who was head of the CPS in 2008 until 2013?
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Post by sheepy on Mar 18, 2023 18:30:10 GMT
I think the author of that site took impartiality tips from the BBC. I get the feeling they are having none of it, which seems to be growing by the day.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 18, 2023 18:30:20 GMT
More false testiment - the Rotherham case for example first began in the late 1980s ( who was in government then ), and its utterly ridiculous beyond measure to suggest that any political party in this country would turn a blind eye to the sexual abuse of children. The failings in the most part were down to Social Services and the Police, and neither Social Services or the Police are governed by rules or codes set out by local authorities, both operate by National Standards, meaning that it was "people" who failed those children, senior police officers and decision makers who work for Social Services. It was individuals who made wrong decisions. Do remind us all who was head of the CPS in 2008 until 2013? BINGO ... LOL
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 18, 2023 18:30:51 GMT
It was the Labour councils and the Labour corrupt social services that allowed that to continue for years. It only began to get the much needed attention after the Tories were elected into power. More false testiment - the Rotherham case for example first began in the late 1980s ( who was in government then ), and its utterly ridiculous beyond measure to suggest that any political party in this country would turn a blind eye to the sexual abuse of children.
The failings in the most part were down to Social Services and the Police, and neither Social Services or the Police are governed by rules or codes set out by local authorities, both operate by National Standards, meaning that it was "people" who failed those children, senior police officers and decision makers who work for Social Services. It was individuals who made wrong decisions. That is precisely what happened in Rotherham Council - in response to the Casey report highlighting this the whole council was replaced with appointed officers by Westminster in 2015.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 18, 2023 18:33:58 GMT
Sid is talking out of his backside yet again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 19:11:00 GMT
Sir Keir Starmer was head of the CPS between 2008 and 2013, but unless any case is refered to the CPS, then obviously Keir Starmer wont know anything about the case(s), and even then the head of the service is not knowledgeable of every case, how could they be.
Rotherham - First successfull convictions came in 2010
Derby - undercover investigation in 2009 / 2010 led to the successfull prosecution by the CPS and police
Telford - successfull convictions which came from trials lasting 2 years and concluded in 2013, the abuse in Telford had been going on since the 1970s.
Oxford - successfull prosecutions concluding in 2013
It seems to me that during Keir Starmers time as head of the CPS, an awful lot of successfull prosecutions took place against child sex gangs
I think that the allegations and insinuations aimed at Keir Starmer are sick, and those posters who suggest that the Labour leader somehow covered up or brushed aside child sex abuse allegations are sick in the head, and clearly resort to childish, gutter tactics to smear an opponent.
The very same pathetic allegations were thrown at Keir Starmer regarding Jimmy Saville, and Richard Scorer, Britains leading and most successfull lawyer in bringing convictions against child sex abusers stated this "as one of the lawyers wo represented Savilles victims, I can confirm that attacks on Keir Starmer are totally unjustified. Starmer did more than any other DPP to advance the rights of victims. No DPP can control every decision, but the CPS was much better under his leadership.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 18, 2023 19:28:17 GMT
Sid is talking out of his backside yet again. Like all leftys mate he is spoilt for choice after taking a dump.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 18, 2023 20:01:28 GMT
Sid is talking out of his backside yet again. Like all leftys mate he is spoilt for choice after taking a dump. Seen it all before, they are naïve beyond belief. the problem is, they really believe what they are told and try and spread it around as some kind of truth.
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