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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 11, 2023 20:09:44 GMT
People either believe in free speech or they don't its that simple,we know this ever more extreme rightwing authoritarian Government don't.
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Post by thescotsman on Mar 11, 2023 20:17:44 GMT
People either believe in free speech or they don't its that simple,we know this ever more extreme rightwing authoritarian Government don't. oh FFS STFU...the wankers that witter on the most about free speech are usually the biggest bloody consumers of it...
001 #commence rant 002 #Lineker should have kept his fucking mouth shut...just coz he's got 7 million illiterate football fans following on twitface doesn't give the bloke any level of intelligence above that of a cheese sandwich... 003 #IF TRUE... how the fuck can he or anyone else equate the 1930s to today...simple...you can't... 004 #end of fucking rant....
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Post by sword on Mar 11, 2023 20:32:18 GMT
People either believe in free speech or they don't its that simple,we know this ever more extreme rightwing authoritarian Government don't. oh FFS STFU...the wankers that witter on the most about free speech are usually the biggest bloody consumers of it...
001 #commence rant 002 #Lineker should have kept his fucking mouth shut...just coz he's got 7 million illiterate football fans following on twitface doesn't give the bloke any level of intelligence above that of a cheese sandwich... 003 #IF TRUE... how the fuck can he or anyone else equate the 1930s to today...simple...you can't... 004 #end of fucking rant....
You just made my point,and Lineker was talking about the Rhetoric from arseholes like Braveman,the Regime Governing this Country seems to be a hybrid between Farage and a National Front tribute act,oh! and you stfu. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 11, 2023 20:37:54 GMT
oh FFS STFU...the wankers that witter on the most about free speech are usually the biggest bloody consumers of it...
001 #commence rant 002 #Lineker should have kept his fucking mouth shut...just coz he's got 7 million illiterate football fans following on twitface doesn't give the bloke any level of intelligence above that of a cheese sandwich... 003 #IF TRUE... how the fuck can he or anyone else equate the 1930s to today...simple...you can't... 004 #end of fucking rant....
You just made my point,and Lineker was talking about the Rhetoric from arseholes like Braveman,the Regime Governing this Country seems to be a hybrid between Farage and a National Front tribute act,oh! and you stfu.
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Post by Toreador on Mar 11, 2023 20:42:41 GMT
Sunak is electioneering by trying to show support for Lineker who he knows is a favourite of millions. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 11, 2023 20:54:01 GMT
oh FFS STFU...the wankers that witter on the most about free speech are usually the biggest bloody consumers of it...
Lineker should have kept his fucking mouth shut How to contradict yourself in 3, 2, 1... |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 11, 2023 20:54:42 GMT
Sunak is electioneering by trying to show support for Lineker who he knows is a favourite of millions.
But regarded as a cunt by millions more. |
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Post by thescotsman on Mar 11, 2023 20:59:54 GMT
oh FFS STFU...the wankers that witter on the most about free speech are usually the biggest bloody consumers of it...
Lineker should have kept his fucking mouth shut How to contradict yourself in 3, 2, 1... ...context isn't your strong point I guess...anyway....at least you can count backwards which is an achievement I suppose |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 11, 2023 21:16:35 GMT
How to contradict yourself in 3, 2, 1... ...context isn't you strong point I guess...anyway....at least you can count backwards which is an achievement I suppose Getting the numbers in the right sequence is an acheivement for some mate. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 11, 2023 21:57:46 GMT
om15 ... "Absolutely, of course he has. The BBC also have the right to decide not to employ him. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The BBC have no right to sack anyone because they have personal opinions - UNLESS aired on the BBC Also, if the Tory run BBC do in fact sack Linekar, he will be snapped up by another broadcaster and get more money, and the BBCs reputation will be damaged beyond repair. But wait ... I guarantee that the Tory boss of the BBC will back down The BBC do not employ him He is a freelance contractor The BBC are free to terminate his contract to supply his services aa a pundit at any time. He has no employment rights. That was his choice. If the BBC feel his behaviour in any way brings their spending of taxpayers money on him into disrepute (and i use the term taxpayers money advisedly, for as gordon brown became incandescent about, the EU decided to categorise the licence fee as a tax) then they must act to sever the relationship. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 11, 2023 22:08:18 GMT
om15 ... "Absolutely, of course he has. The BBC also have the right to decide not to employ him. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The BBC have no right to sack anyone because they have personal opinions - UNLESS aired on the BBC Also, if the Tory run BBC do in fact sack Linekar, he will be snapped up by another broadcaster and get more money, and the BBCs reputation will be damaged beyond repair. But wait ... I guarantee that the Tory boss of the BBC will back down The BBC do not employ him He is a freelance contractor The BBC are free to terminate his contract to supply his services aa a pundit at any time. He has no employment rights. That was his choice. If the BBC feel his behaviour in any way brings their spending of taxpayers money on him into disrepute (and i use the term taxpayers money advisedly, for as gordon brown became incandescent about, the EU decided to categorise the licence fee as a tax) then they must act to sever the relationship. John, HMRC say he is a BBC employee. |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 12, 2023 2:02:39 GMT
The BBC have inadvertently made a martyr out of Lineker, and the virtual signalling backlash of "solidarity" alongside the multimillion pound TV presenter shows how divided this nation is. It also demonstrates the groupthink mentality amongst
BBC employees, where anti-Tory sentiment, anti-Brexit, anti-working class, pro-chattering class reside. The well-paid chattering classes within the BBC don't mind having their own virtue signalling opinions projected through the BBC. Yet, they
don't agree with the BBC when it actually tries to be impartial. Another case in point was when Emily Maitlis departed the BBC, she begrudged the BBC invoking its impartiality rules onto her when she savaged Domminc Cummings.
However, it is amusing to read and hear elements of the Leftwaffe complain about "freedom-of-speech" where Lineker is concerned. When in recent history they've been the main culprits and antagonists of curtailing "free-speech". They invented
'cancel-culture', 'de-platforming' and 'safe-spaces' for alleged "marginalised" groups, because words hurt them. They are the first subset of humans to hurt so badly over words, and the expression of language that they devised a systemic
countermeasure to sack, humiliate, cancel, retrain and re-educate people for their hurt feelings. Morally, these people are given a taste of their own medicine and the hypocrisy displayed is quite outstanding IMHO. Whether or not the BBC has a
contract with Lineker about his partisan views, these incidentally are not his first controversial comments while working for the BBC, I don't know. It's the moral issue here and the selective hypocrisy of the left and the luvvies who have come
dashing out the woodwork voicing their ire in support of Lineker and his 'free-speech' that gets me.
I am a believer in free-speech. Always have been. However, nobody on the Left defends the likes of J.K.Rowling; Kellie-Jay Keen (feminist who is considered far-right); Jordan Peterson, blasphemous teens in Wakefield, or even Nigel Farage's right
to 'free-speech'. When said folk announce their political views in public they often receive an onslaught of threats and vile abuse, calling for this or that to happen to them. There is no even handedness amongst the Leftwaffe, and I find it difficult
to stand by their side and denounce the BBC when they are more than happy to curb the freedom of speech towards people who's views they oppose, or turn the other cheek in other matters. I will not be the leg for them to stand on.
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Post by wapentake on Mar 12, 2023 6:50:16 GMT
Free speech? No such thing .
The ability to speak freely is so often dependent (like so many other things) on how much money you’ve got,Lineker has the option to put two fingers up to those that oppose him and think nothing of it, many others and often to their cost cannot.
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 12, 2023 7:23:17 GMT
It is true that as a freelance commentator, if Lineker went somewhere else , the BBC would lose far more than he would.
There has to be a clear division between a place of work and the private life of employees.
The BBC has closed its eyes to more than a few incidents which indicate it is not impartial.
I also get annoyed when politicians being interviewed are clearly telling lies and interviewers never press them to explain themselves.
The whole policy should be overhauled.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 12, 2023 8:59:21 GMT
jonksy ... "But no one would give a fuck about your bleating as it would at best be heard by a couple of hundred people where linekers bleatings are heard by 10's of thousands" -------------------------------------------------- Ah I see where you are coming from now, you mean anyone well known or famous should not have opinions, or if they do they should just keep them to themselves. There is a time and a place for everything. He signed a contract with the beeb and has abused the contract. This isn't about the loss of free speech but a lack of integrity on linekers part. He is a typical hypocirtical, sanctimonious lefty and thinks only his and his ilks views count. |
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