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Post by Pacifico on Mar 21, 2023 22:30:10 GMT
Are you stuck? You are going to have to do better than that to excuse Starmers hypocrisy..  You keep answering my question with a question. can't you answer? What Civil Servant decides their own pension? - that being the case why are Labour promising to take tax free status away from Teachers Pensions whilst protecting Starmers? |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 21, 2023 23:10:24 GMT
You keep answering my question with a question. can't you answer? What Civil Servant decides their own pension? - that being the case why are Labour promising to take tax free status away from Teachers Pensions whilst protecting Starmers? Did Sir Kier have a choice on his pension. Can't you answer |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 22, 2023 6:23:28 GMT
do Doctors, Teachers and Policemen have a choice about theirs?. Labour are promising to abolish the Pension reform introduced in the Budget should they gain office as it 'only benefits the top 1%'. But they are not going to abolish the pension deals that already existed before the Budget - hence Mr Starmers tax free pension is safe. Did Sir Kier have a choice on his pension Of course he did. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 22, 2023 7:46:20 GMT
can't you answer? What Civil Servant decides their own pension? - that being the case why are Labour promising to take tax free status away from Teachers Pensions whilst protecting Starmers? Did Sir Kier have a choice on his pension. Can't you answer Obviously not - but then no Civil Servent does. However the point you are missing (avoiding) is that after the next election (should Labour win) they will be pushing through a change on Pensions that takes away the tax free element from the Pensions of Teachers, Policemen etc but without touching the tax free Pension of the Leader of the Labour Party. Trying to defend that is going to make an awful lot of Government Ministers look very silly. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2023 9:50:29 GMT
You keep answering my question with a question. can't you answer? What Civil Servant decides their own pension? - that being the case why are Labour promising to take tax free status away from Teachers Pensions whilst protecting Starmers? Imagine having a Parliamentary regulation just to cover one man's tax affairs:  |
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Post by see2 on Mar 22, 2023 10:18:11 GMT
Did Sir Kier have a choice on his pension. Can't you answer Obviously not - but then no Civil Servent does. However the point you are missing (avoiding) is that after the next election (should Labour win) they will be pushing through a change on Pensions that takes away the tax free element from the Pensions of Teachers, Policemen etc but without touching the tax free Pension of the Leader of the Labour Party. Trying to defend that is going to make an awful lot of Government Ministers look very silly. Has 'Labour' made it clear that is what they would do? |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 22, 2023 12:54:21 GMT
Obviously not - but then no Civil Servent does. However the point you are missing (avoiding) is that after the next election (should Labour win) they will be pushing through a change on Pensions that takes away the tax free element from the Pensions of Teachers, Policemen etc but without touching the tax free Pension of the Leader of the Labour Party. Trying to defend that is going to make an awful lot of Government Ministers look very silly. Has 'Labour' made it clear that is what they would do? Labour have said they will reverse the changes to the tax regime introduced in the Budget - they have not said anything about changes to the tax regime for Starmer which they put through Parliament in the first place. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 22, 2023 20:27:32 GMT
Did Sir Kier have a choice on his pension. Can't you answer Obviously not - but then no Civil Servent does. However the point you are missing (avoiding) is that after the next election (should Labour win) they will be pushing through a change on Pensions that takes away the tax free element from the Pensions of Teachers, Policemen etc but without touching the tax free Pension of the Leader of the Labour Party. Trying to defend that is going to make an awful lot of Government Ministers look very silly. Thank you for answering. So Sir Kier as a member of the public had no say on just how much tax he paid on his pension. Sir Kier as a member of parliament in power would like to remove these excessive tax breaks. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 22, 2023 20:35:44 GMT
Has 'Labour' made it clear that is what they would do? Labour have said they will reverse the changes to the tax regime introduced in the Budget - they have not said anything about changes to the tax regime for Starmer which they put through Parliament in the first place. Does it specifically exclude Starmer? Does it exclude anyone else? Is there a specific reason why Starmer is excluded? |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 22, 2023 22:18:57 GMT
Obviously not - but then no Civil Servent does. However the point you are missing (avoiding) is that after the next election (should Labour win) they will be pushing through a change on Pensions that takes away the tax free element from the Pensions of Teachers, Policemen etc but without touching the tax free Pension of the Leader of the Labour Party. Trying to defend that is going to make an awful lot of Government Ministers look very silly. Thank you for answering. So Sir Kier as a member of the public had no say on just how much tax he paid on his pension. Sir Kier as a member of parliament in power would like to remove these excessive tax breaks. What leads you to believe that he is going to remove the tax breaks on his pension - do you have a link? |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 22, 2023 22:21:32 GMT
Labour have said they will reverse the changes to the tax regime introduced in the Budget - they have not said anything about changes to the tax regime for Starmer which they put through Parliament in the first place. Does it exclude anyone else? Is there a specific reason why Starmer is excluded? Yes - Rachel Reeves has stated that Labour will reverse the provisions in this years budget. Starmers tax deal was an SI introduced by the Labour Government in 2008. Perhaps you need to ask the Labour Party why they are protecting Starmers tax-free pension? |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 22, 2023 22:25:43 GMT
Thank you for answering. So Sir Kier as a member of the public had no say on just how much tax he paid on his pension. Sir Kier as a member of parliament in power would like to remove these excessive tax breaks. What leads you to believe that he is going to remove the tax breaks on his pension - do you have a link? I didn't say that did I. I said, Sir Kier as a member of parliament in power would like to remove these excessive tax breaks. As in going forward they would stop them. I agree Sir Kier probably received these breaks, but not through choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2023 22:31:35 GMT
I agree Sir Kier probably received these breaks, but not through choice. I'm sure he has been constantly protesting the injustice of having this single law exception foisted upon him. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 22, 2023 22:37:16 GMT
What leads you to believe that he is going to remove the tax breaks on his pension - do you have a link? I didn't say that did I. I said, Sir Kier as a member of parliament in power would like to remove these excessive tax breaks.
As in going forward they would stop them. I agree Sir Kier probably received these breaks, but not through choice. What is leading you to believe this? - because I have heard precisely Zero from him about his pension. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 22, 2023 22:51:26 GMT
I agree Sir Kier probably received these breaks, but not through choice. I'm sure he has been constantly protesting the injustice of having this single law exception foisted upon him. Thanks, I didn't know that. I'd assumed he had accepted something he could do nothing about. |
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