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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 27, 2023 9:48:42 GMT
No, it would not have kept the man happy, he's an imperialist bully who wants to rebuild the Russian empire. He once asked if Russia could join NATO, whilst his forces were engaged in the mass murder of the Chechens. The man cannot be trusted, he's a killer. I must admit trusting a killer is something I'm unlikely to do, but you see the US does the same. This is why I'm glad the Chinese have got the financial clout these days, because peace is golden to them. They know what war is like. The Japs killed millions of Chinese.
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Post by Orac on May 27, 2023 10:14:11 GMT
War is composed of two antagonists who want peace on different terms.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 27, 2023 22:59:15 GMT
War is composed of two antagonists who want peace on different terms. It's not even that. It is just evil gets in to the minds of the people. WW1 started like that. It started with the national press spreading pride. If people had any sense the politicians would try and start a war but no one would turn up. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 28, 2023 5:31:15 GMT
No, it would not have kept the man happy, he's an imperialist bully who wants to rebuild the Russian empire. He once asked if Russia could join NATO, whilst his forces were engaged in the mass murder of the Chechens. The man cannot be trusted, he's a killer. Your views are simplistic and naive. America is a far worse Imperialist bully on a Worldwide scale, the Soros Posse are also covert killers and propagandist liars - who use their Media to whitewash their crimes and bleed countries dry … destroying the true nature of Western Democracy … so what’s more dangerous to the WEST? Israel mobilised BLM to attack white European tribes and their Systems of Law and Order all over the modernised world recently … what could be more dangerous to our Commonwealth?? … Even a low brow Neanderthal from the Democratic Party can see this programme to destroy our Democratic representation, corrupt our political systems and breach our border controls since WW2? Putin was no threat to us until NATO and Western Gangsters plotted to destabilise regions in and around Russia … and pump guns, weaponry, terrorist explosives and military advisors into these areas …. since 2014. …. It’s basic ‘cause and effect’ … ask any military strategist who hasn’t had his critical thinking compromised by MK Ultra programming. Their goal is to replace the Russian State with the Soros Posse Empire … and then surround and attack China … it’s a transparent bid to secure World Domination and an Orwellian State. …. Zionists creating a Fourth Reich …. with an anti-white eugenics programme thrown in for good measure. The Public know full well who are the most dangerous “Nazis” on the Planet … and the Wagner Group laughably don’t even make it into the top 20. Tot up how many Countries the U.S. has invaded on a false pretext since WW2 … and any neutral with even a basic grasp of REAL history can see how laughably are Vinny’s hypocritical accusations about Russian behaviour … nobody does breaches of sovereignty and world domination quite like Americans - ask any bullied tribal culture invaded by them. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 2, 2023 13:01:34 GMT
What a load of bullshit. Meanwhile Putin violated the Russia Ukraine Friendship Treaty, the Kharkiv Pact, the CSTO Treaty, the Minsk agreements and the UN Charter. All you have is whatabouttery bollocks in defence of an illegal invasion and the bombing of civilians. Come to your senses. Do not support Putin. Read article 1 of this treaty. en.odkb-csto.org/documents/documents/dogovor_o_kollektivnoy_bezopasnosti/#loadedPutin violated that. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 3, 2023 6:32:23 GMT
All sides broke Treaties at one time or another, Vinny … look at the number Ukraine broke after WW2? … it’s all laid out clearly in the Ukraine on Fire documentary … but even Putin was giving the Ukraine People the benefit of the doubt in that interview he gave Oliver Stone pre-2016 when this film came out.
After Glasnost … they were the victims of super-rich Oligarchs working in cahoots with the Soros Posse Mafias … scrabbling to survive … starving in many instances while living in the Wheat Bowl of this region as these Oligarchs partied with their prostitutes on super yachts before buying up UK football clubs.
… it is amazing Stone “smelled a rat in the kitchen” around the Ukraine situation so many years ahead of this planned war … this latest Soros Posse/EU Posse/NATO Posse expansionist bid for World Domination.
…. He has the ability and contacts to cut thru the crap and shine a mirror into the dark, dank crevices where the CIA … and war-mongers grub around … turning the World into a ‘sh*t sandwich’.
I just hope people in the WEST step out of the MSM fake narratives over this war … tear down their Ukraine flags used in Far Right-manipulated torchlight parades in Kiev … and march on Admin buildings in the WEST now …. and peacefully remove these duplicitous crooks from POWER …. and take back our BBC from these extremists.
The Police and Military of the UK and Commonwealth need to recognise the lies coming out of a Whitehall/GCHQ …. recognise they got into bed with a duplicitous bunch of Americans and Israeli crooks … and their bent Financiers/Arms Dealers. …. They need to come home now from Ukraine … and other parts of the World where they are poodling for a tyrannical U.S. Regime … and side with ordinary decent peace-loving UK Citizens who want this Country and it’s threatened Democratic System/Law and Order System - to stand for something honest, humanitarian and above all embrace the FREEDOMS and FREE SPEECH so many sacrificed so much for during WW 1+2.
Time to sort out the rotten apples in our Political and Administrative System … taken over by Religious Sectarian Anarchists peddling fake extremist Leftist Agendas that are married to Far Right Totalitarian Goals and damaging eugenics programmes … right behind our Moderate Backs. …. all propagandised by our once respected … now vilified MSM.
….” who would have thunk it” … in a World they made an Idiocracy?
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Post by Vinny on Jun 3, 2023 7:09:04 GMT
Again you defend the indefensible.
Ukraine has been under attack by Putin since 2004. Viktor Yushchenko was poisoned in violation of the Russia Ukraine Friendship Treaty of 1997 and the UN Charter.
Then electoral interference in 2010 got Yanukovych, Putin's puppet into office, the Kharkiv Pact was signed extending the use of Sevastopol until 2047.
Then the killing of more than 100 protesters by Yanukovych, resulted in the Ukrainian Parliament AND his own party sacking the man and calling fresh elections.
Then Putin invaded Crimea with the regular Russian army and Donbas with mercenaries.
You are defending the mass murder of Ukrainian civilians, simply because you don't like the West.
Stop it.
It's possible to not like globalism, Soros, or Putinism.
You are making the mistake of supporting a brutal imperialist mass murderer.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 7, 2023 9:51:51 GMT
I’m weighing up real threats to the WEST …. where I was nurtured in what used to be the “cradle of Democracy” … WESTERN Leaders hyped faux outrage of Putin’s activities …. is NOTHING compared to the REAL OUTRAGE indigenous real Europeans feel for the atrocities of WESTERN LEADERSHIP, Deep State/Israeli interference AND assorted criminal CORRUPTION today …. and the atrocity of our deliberately broken borders.
Putin gets no support from me … except for his Peace Initiative the WEST rejected Jan ‘22. … go figure why? … I still can’t. ….Maybe that can be labelled a “war crime”??
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