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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 15:33:26 GMT
Says the poster who was so distraught and cannot move on that he was driven to start (yet another) thread about it..  It's 7 years now - are you still going to be banging on about it at the 10th anniversary? He'll be banging on about it at the 27th anniversary like that Japanese soldier Hiroo Onoda, who refused to surrender for 29 years. Some people do it everyday, years on end without a break. I have no idea what motivates anyone to give up on life to function like a blog bot. It's no wonder they're full of hate. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 17:57:24 GMT
People want a semblance of control, we want a managed immigration system and we are still waiting. We want to be friends with our neighbours yet not if this means compromising sovereignty and being taken for a ride by excessive membership fees. We have always had a managed immigration system. We just manage to mismanage it. Our sovereignty is already compromised. The second you take part in globalisation and international trade is the moment you compromise a part of your sovereignty. In the case of the UK, there's another factor that compels us to compromise: Northern Ireland. The only question left at the end is how much of your sovereignty are you willing to compromise? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:05:31 GMT
People want a semblance of control, we want a managed immigration system and we are still waiting. We want to be friends with our neighbours yet not if this means compromising sovereignty and being taken for a ride by excessive membership fees. We have always had a managed immigration system. We just manage to mismanage it. Our sovereignty is already compromised. The second you take part in globalisation and international trade is the moment you compromise a part of your sovereignty. In the case of the UK, there's another factor that compels us to compromise: Northern Ireland. The only question left at the end is how much of your sovereignty are you willing to compromise? Progress can take much of it back. There's no reason why trading with other countries means we have to trade people. |
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Post by bancroft on Mar 7, 2023 18:08:41 GMT
People want a semblance of control, we want a managed immigration system and we are still waiting. We want to be friends with our neighbours yet not if this means compromising sovereignty and being taken for a ride by excessive membership fees. We have always had a managed immigration system. We just manage to mismanage it. Our sovereignty is already compromised. The second you take part in globalisation and international trade is the moment you compromise a part of your sovereignty. In the case of the UK, there's another factor that compels us to compromise: Northern Ireland. The only question left at the end is how much of your sovereignty are you willing to compromise? The Tories must love people like you as it ensures Labour will never get in power as most White Working Class in the UK are poor and fed up with money going to those that have not been legally born here or worked here for a living depriving others of decent benefits or subsidised housing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:10:43 GMT
The reality is that the people democratically voted to leave the EU. There is no such thing as "Brexit Puritism". Obviously, as you continue to point out, there are EU fanatics who will never accept democracy, and continue to sneer at those who do whilst supporting a hostile foreign power that wants to take us one bit at a time. That's enough evidence there to highlight exactly what the EU really stands for.
The German Nazis also spread propaganda in this country to divide it.
Brexit purism is the mentality that anything less than the complete destruction of our relationship with the EU is a dilution of Brexit and that any attempt to strengthen our relationship with the EU is a bid to dilute Brexit. And a diluted Brexit is not Brexit at all. To quote the writer; a Brexit purist is a "devotee of the vandal cult that can only see a glowing future for Britain when bridges to Europe are burning." |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:14:12 GMT
The reality is that the people democratically voted to leave the EU. There is no such thing as "Brexit Puritism". Obviously, as you continue to point out, there are EU fanatics who will never accept democracy, and continue to sneer at those who do whilst supporting a hostile foreign power that wants to take us one bit at a time. That's enough evidence there to highlight exactly what the EU really stands for.
The German Nazis also spread propaganda in this country to divide it.
Brexit purism is the mentality that anything less than the complete destruction of our relationship with the EU is a dilution of Brexit and that any attempt to strengthen our relationship with the EU is a bid to dilute Brexit. And a diluted Brexit is not Brexit at all. To quote the writer; a Brexit purist is a "devotee of the vandal cult that can only see a glowing future for Britain when bridges to Europe are burning." Ah, so it only exists in your head.
There is leave or remain. Leave does not automatically mean having no relation with European nations. The EU is not Europe even if you're forced to believe that it is.
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Post by bancroft on Mar 7, 2023 18:15:38 GMT
Oh dear and what is the ideology behind open borders when England is the most concentrated country in Europe?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:16:14 GMT
We have always had a managed immigration system. We just manage to mismanage it. Our sovereignty is already compromised. The second you take part in globalisation and international trade is the moment you compromise a part of your sovereignty. In the case of the UK, there's another factor that compels us to compromise: Northern Ireland. The only question left at the end is how much of your sovereignty are you willing to compromise? Progress can take much of it back. There's no reason why trading with other countries means we have to trade people. How can you achieve progress when you are not willing to compromise? To be less rhetorical, how can trade and governance in Northern Ireland improve if the DUP do not compromise on their be-all-and-end-all unionist policies and mentality? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:23:53 GMT
Brexit purism is the mentality that anything less than the complete destruction of our relationship with the EU is a dilution of Brexit and that any attempt to strengthen our relationship with the EU is a bid to dilute Brexit. And a diluted Brexit is not Brexit at all. To quote the writer; a Brexit purist is a "devotee of the vandal cult that can only see a glowing future for Britain when bridges to Europe are burning." Ah, so it only exists in your head.
There is leave or remain. Leave does not automatically mean having no relation with European nations. The EU is not Europe even if you're forced to believe that it is.
What exists in a Brexit purist's head is manifested in a Brexit purist's actions and statements. Leave does not automatically mean having no relation with European nations? Well, you're just telling me that you're not a Brexit purist. Fine, that's great to hear! BTW, to all intents and purposes? The EU is Europe. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:27:59 GMT
Progress can take much of it back. There's no reason why trading with other countries means we have to trade people. How can you achieve progress when you are not willing to compromise? To be less rhetorical, how can trade and governance in Northern Ireland improve if the DUP do not compromise on their be-all-and-end-all unionist policies and mentality? Abandoning the UK is not a compromise, it's a defeat - surrender. It needn't be if the EU had any respect. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:29:52 GMT
We have always had a managed immigration system. We just manage to mismanage it. Our sovereignty is already compromised. The second you take part in globalisation and international trade is the moment you compromise a part of your sovereignty. In the case of the UK, there's another factor that compels us to compromise: Northern Ireland. The only question left at the end is how much of your sovereignty are you willing to compromise? The Tories must love people like you as it ensures Labour will never get in power as most White Working Class in the UK are poor and fed up with money going to those that have not been legally born here or worked here for a living depriving others of decent benefits or subsidised housing. You mean Native, white, benefit abusers versus Foreign, almost-white, tax and NI payers. |
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Post by bancroft on Mar 7, 2023 18:30:30 GMT
The EU is attempting to become an empire so the UK had to be treated harshly to deter the others from wanting to break away.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:33:20 GMT
How can you achieve progress when you are not willing to compromise? To be less rhetorical, how can trade and governance in Northern Ireland improve if the DUP do not compromise on their be-all-and-end-all unionist policies and mentality? Abandoning the UK is not a compromise, it's a defeat - surrender. It needn't be if the EU had any respect. A compromise does not amount to abandonment. What do you mean by respect? It is us -- or Boris Johnson and his government -- trying to screw them over! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:38:53 GMT
The EU is attempting to become an empire so the UK had to be treated harshly to deter the others from wanting to break away. The EU treated the UK as a third country. Once we voted to leave, they had to protect their own interests and we had to protect ours. It's not their fault that (a) we sent useless negotiators, (b) we had a sneaky PM and (c) we had a "complicated situation" in Northern Ireland. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 18:47:46 GMT
Abandoning the UK is not a compromise, it's a defeat - surrender. It needn't be if the EU had any respect. A compromise does not amount to abandonment. What do you mean by respect? It is us -- or Boris Johnson and his government -- trying to screw them over! I take great offence to the fact that our mainstream parties and civil service have all been compromised. Leaving was the best thing we have done since defeating Hitler.  |
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