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Post by Pacifico on Mar 2, 2023 22:42:58 GMT
Here is a test open to everyone to guage impartiality. Anyone with a reasonable claim to be impartial ought to be able to provide answers. Name three faults or errors or mistakes made by each of the following. Margaret Thatcher. Comprehensive Education, the Single Market, the dash for gas. PFI, collapse in house building, mass immigration.. Energy policy, Immigration policy, low growth policy.. the rest of the list are nonentities who dont matter. |
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Post by Steve on Mar 2, 2023 22:43:57 GMT
OK then I'll add Jeremy Corbyn- Lying his way into the Remain campaign to destroy its position
- Wanting to make the Uk Venezuela without the sun
- Wreaking enduring damage on the Labour Party
Your second point in particular is risible. Labour aspired to something akin to the Nordic model, not the Venezuelan one. But alas is it standard practice for centrists to misrepresent the left as extremists using lies, groos exagerrations, and false labels. You just failed the impartiality test |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 3, 2023 7:34:12 GMT
Here is a test open to everyone to guage impartiality. Anyone with a reasonable claim to be impartial ought to be able to provide answers. Name three faults or errors or mistakes made by each of the following. Margaret Thatcher. Tony Blair Nick Clegg Nicola Sturgeon Neil Kinnock David Cameron Jeremy Corbyn. I will give my own repsonses in a following post. Three is probably a stretch for my brain this morning Here’s two Thatcher: right to buy with NO provision of replacement, utter vindictive rejoicing after making millions unemployed Blair: Allowing gays and Lesbians exemption from IR35, Fast Tracked Visa scheme that flooded the UK with Indians with fake IT degrees Clegg: U Turn on Tuition Fees, Failure to demand PNC erasure of witness details Sturgeon: Letting a bloke still equipped with a dick be jailed at a womens prison, being unable to read when it comes to understanding what the Scottish Parliament can, and cannot, d Kinnock: VAT on the Severn Bridge, (which if you know the details reveals his stance over the EU, the real problem) and Naking the fucking shitload out of the EU that he did. Cameron: Failing to get enough support in 2010, and then getting too much in 2015, Appointing that cokehead as Chancellor Corbyn: Telling it how it is with Israel and having a brilliant idea for a defence policy which required absolute secrecy to work, and going on the Andrew Marr show to tell everyone about it. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 3, 2023 8:32:59 GMT
I'm unable to find any virtues in any of them, bunch of wankers.
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Post by see2 on Mar 3, 2023 9:06:33 GMT
A failed thread allowing a number of biased unproven opinions to be posted thus proving nothing more than some posters like to express their own particular bias. I suspect that srb7677s repeated attempts to get me to join in with those who get a kick out of lying, insinuating and attacking Blair just might have something to do with this waste of space thread. I knew he was pissed off that I refuse to join them, and now he can remain pissed off because I still refuse to join them  |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 3, 2023 10:04:50 GMT
I'm unable to find any virtues in any of them, bunch of wankers. LOL. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 3, 2023 10:38:42 GMT
I'm unable to find any virtues in any of them, bunch of wankers. I went for the cop-out I looked at the choices and decided ..
If you are only going to say something rude or mean-spirited, keep quiet instead.
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Post by Toreador on Mar 3, 2023 11:34:22 GMT
A failed thread allowing a number of biased unproven opinions to be posted thus proving nothing more than some posters like to express their own particular bias. I suspect that srb7677s repeated attempts to get me to join in with those who get a kick out of lying, insinuating and attacking Blair just might have something to do with this waste of space thread. I knew he was pissed off that I refuse to join them, and now he can remain pissed off because I still refuse to join them It can hardly have failed when the list of people are heavily responsible for what this country has become. Please read my all encompassing and accurate previous post. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 3, 2023 11:35:43 GMT
I'm unable to find any virtues in any of them, bunch of wankers. I went for the cop-out I looked at the choices and decided ..
If you are only going to say something rude or mean-spirited, keep quiet instead.
So you have the same opinion as me.  |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 3, 2023 11:39:59 GMT
I went for the cop-out I looked at the choices and decided ..
If you are only going to say something rude or mean-spirited, keep quiet instead.
So you have the same opinion as me. I wouldn't have put it as nicely as you , but it was too early in the morning for me to use such foul language, |
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Post by Orac on Mar 3, 2023 11:42:32 GMT
Anyone who is politically impartial is by definition apolitical, and that is certainly not me. Anyone who has any interest in politics will not be impartial/apolitical. They will quite obviously be partial, in most cases very partial. Well said. Unfortunately, there do appear to be people who believe themselves to be impartial. These people can often be quite dangerous in large numbers |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 3, 2023 11:51:44 GMT
Anyone who is politically impartial is by definition apolitical, and that is certainly not me. Anyone who has any interest in politics will not be impartial/apolitical. They will quite obviously be partial, in most cases very partial. Well said. Unfortunately, there do appear to be people who believe themselves to be impartial. These people can often be quite dangerous in large numbers speaking of which, I notice jaydee is noticeable by his absence, he must be still reeling from his hero being dethroned, I mean you can't get anyone more impartial than jaydee lol  |
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Post by dodgydave on Mar 5, 2023 2:25:03 GMT
I would rather judge people on the outcomes / likely outcomes of their policies, and not constantly question if they are making those decisions in good faith.
99% of politics is about the size and influence of government vs the rights and responsibilities of individuals.
This is why I think the Tories normally win. The Tories have a clear argument for low tax, small government, high personal responsibility. Labour on the other hand, argue for big government and more of a helping hand, but can't seem to make a credible argument for funding it with higher taxes for all.
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Post by totheleft3 on Mar 5, 2023 2:49:28 GMT
I would rather judge people on the outcomes / likely outcomes of their policies, and not constantly question if they are making those decisions in good faith. 99% of politics is about the size and influence of government vs the rights and responsibilities of individuals. This is why I think the Tories normally win. The Tories have a clear argument for low tax, small government, high personal responsibility. Labour on the other hand, argue for big government and more of a helping hand, but can't seem to make a credible argument for funding it with higher taxes for all. Lol what like Thatchers doubling of vat from 8% to 15% and the dreaded poll tax |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 5, 2023 3:06:34 GMT
I would rather judge people on the outcomes / likely outcomes of their policies, and not constantly question if they are making those decisions in good faith. 99% of politics is about the size and influence of government vs the rights and responsibilities of individuals. This is why I think the Tories normally win. The Tories have a clear argument for low tax, small government, high personal responsibility. Labour on the other hand, argue for big government and more of a helping hand, but can't seem to make a credible argument for funding it with higher taxes for all. Lol what like Thatchers doubling of vat from 8% to 15% and the dreaded poll tax Get a grip you tit. The Tories are the most successful political party in the world. What party in any country has dominated politics in the 19th 20th and so far the 21st century? Answers on a post card kiddies lol. |
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