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Post by dappy on Oct 20, 2022 17:51:50 GMT
You didn’t Hardyman
Starmer would love Johnson to get the job but if he did he suspect he would break Truss’s record for shortest ever PM stint.
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Post by Orac on Oct 20, 2022 17:53:43 GMT
The only candidate pretty much guaranteed to get 100 nominations in the first round is Sunak - if none of the other candidates breach that barrier he could be annointed Leader by Monday night. Quite so. And it wouldn't surprise me if had been arranged that Sunak will be the only candidate to get 100 votes. That's how desperate they are to get him into number 10. Yes - it's extremely fishy imho |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 20, 2022 17:54:33 GMT
Sunak was my choice from the outset. If he gets in with 2 years to go then Starmer's toast.
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Post by dappy on Oct 20, 2022 17:56:05 GMT
How could they “arrange” for only Sunak to get 100 nominations. What could stop 101 MPs coalescing behind say Braverman if they thought she would be better than Sunak?
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 20, 2022 17:57:40 GMT
If I heard right on the News a candidate will have to poll as least 50 votes to be considered to speed up the selection from the Tory MP's Party Members will not be involved in the vote Candidates will require a minimum of 100 votes for their names to be entered on the final ballot. If only one candidate has a minimum of 100 votes, he automatically becomes PM. And I say 'he' because Sunak is the man they want, Sunak is the man they wanted to replace Boris with months ago and I'm confident that this time they are determined there will be no cock-ups. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 20, 2022 18:03:52 GMT
Sunak was my choice from the outset. If he gets in with 2 years to go then Starmer's toast. Sunak is part of the problem that runs through the conservative party these days, he's not very conservative. Like many in the cabinet these days he is a left-wing globalist, just like Hunt. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 20, 2022 18:04:06 GMT
In the light of recent events - let's just consider one way one might manipulate a vote -
You have several candidates - three candidates (say) are strong but not preferred by yourself, one is very weak and another is your preferred candidate. Which two candidates do you present for selection?
What do you do next if that ruse doesn't work?
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Post by Handyman on Oct 20, 2022 18:08:42 GMT
If I heard right on the News a candidate will have to poll as least 50 votes to be considered to speed up the selection from the Tory MP's Party Members will not be involved in the vote Candidates will require a minimum of 100 votes for their names to be entered on the final ballot. If only one candidate has a minimum of 100 votes, he automatically becomes PM. And I say 'he' because Sunak is the man they want, Sunak is the man they wanted to replace Boris with months ago and I'm confident that this time they are determined there will be no cock-ups. Thank You for correcting me |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 20, 2022 18:11:25 GMT
Sunak was my choice from the outset. If he gets in with 2 years to go then Starmer's toast. Sunak is part of the problem that runs through the conservative party these days, he's not very conservative. Like many in the cabinet these days he is a left-wing globalist, just like Hunt. I don't know why but I don't think he fits the bill at all |
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Post by petenz on Oct 20, 2022 18:13:37 GMT
I'm confused (not difficult). So are they saying there is no need to put a new selection to the vote of Tory Party Members and that selection will be by MP's vote only?
If so, why the bloody hell were they not able to do that last time around?
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 20, 2022 18:16:57 GMT
They would have to be idiots to let the membership decide again.
My guess is that they spend the weekend deciding on a unity candidate, Sunak gets a shed load and whoever is second concedes, like they did with May. Anything else would be madness.
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 20, 2022 18:20:10 GMT
I'm confused (not difficult). So are they saying there is no need to put a new selection to the vote of Tory Party Members and that selection will be by MP's vote only? If so, why the bloody hell were they not able to do that last time around? They are putting the final two to the Tory Members, who will vote online, with the result by next Friday. Unless they are idiots, the MPs will privately agree that Sunak gets the job, and whoever is second will stand down before the membership vote, thus crowning him PM on Monday / Tuesday. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 20, 2022 18:22:32 GMT
Sunak is part of the problem that runs through the conservative party these days, he's not very conservative. Like many in the cabinet these days he is a left-wing globalist, just like Hunt. The alternative, if we're not careful, is Starmer - a left wing lawyer. And, if we had to lay blame for society's current parlous state at any one group, it would be left wing lawyers. Starmer is far more than the opposition. He's an ideological nuclear catastrophe. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 20, 2022 18:22:54 GMT
Apparently if I recall correctly, they are allowed to not to consult the Tory Party Members as they did at first as it takes too long, this time just the Tory MPs can cast their vote to meet the deadline which is a week from tomorrow, if I think if a decision cannot be made by then it means a GE
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Post by petenz on Oct 20, 2022 18:23:41 GMT
I'm confused (not difficult). So are they saying there is no need to put a new selection to the vote of Tory Party Members and that selection will be by MP's vote only? If so, why the bloody hell were they not able to do that last time around? They are putting the final two to the Tory Members, who will vote online, with the result by next Friday. Thanks for the clarification. |
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