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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 21, 2022 11:37:36 GMT
Well it's becoming increasingly clear why some posters have a limited insight in to the full spectrum of politics and political parties, if their only source is trotting to the newsagents every morning to buy their left wing newspapers, that's why they haven't a clue what goes on outside of that bubble. Left-Wingers aren't the brightest stuck out there on the left wing, but then the same applies to Right-Wingers stuck out there on the right wing, which is why both can be considered extremists no matter where they get their information from. I know it can apply both ways, but that's generally because it's a 'family tradition' thing. My dad voted Labour/Tory like his dad, and his before him and so on.
Basically in some cases it's nothing to do with politics and more to do with family tradition, they are the diehards you wont change their politics, however having said that when Johnson won his 2019 landslide general election he actually broke that mould, and many traditional labour voters voted Tory, unfortunately the Tories are destroying that legacy.
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Post by see2 on Oct 21, 2022 11:55:12 GMT
Left-Wingers aren't the brightest stuck out there on the left wing, but then the same applies to Right-Wingers stuck out there on the right wing, which is why both can be considered extremists no matter where they get their information from. I know it can apply both ways, but that's generally because it's a 'family tradition' thing. My dad voted Labour/Tory like his dad, and his before him and so on.
Basically in some cases it's nothing to do with politics and more to do with family tradition, they are the diehards you wont change their politics, however having said that when Johnson won his 2019 landslide general election he actually broke that mould, and many traditional labour voters voted Tory, unfortunately the Tories are destroying that legacy.
A lot of truth in your post.
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Post by sword on Oct 21, 2022 11:56:33 GMT
Left wing Publications
Daily Mirror – mainstream newspaper which has consistently supported the Labour Party since the 1945 general election. The Guardian – mainstream newspaper which has consistently supported centre-left politics, either reflected by the Labour Party or the Liberal Democrats. The Morning Star – co-operative, reader-owned socialist newspaper. Britain's Road to Socialism, the programme of the Communist Party of Britain, underlies the paper's editorial stance. It was formerly the Daily Worker, before being renamed in 1966. The News Line – from the Workers Revolutionary Party. Previously Workers Press. [Newsfeed updated daily online but limited print circulation.] Weekly New Statesman – independent political and cultural magazine. The New Worker – from the New Communist Party of Britain. The Observer – centre-left mainstream newspaper published on Sundays. The Socialist – from the Socialist Party (England and Wales). Socialist Worker – from the Socialist Workers Party. Sunday Mirror – sister newspaper to Daily Mirror, published every Sunday. Weekly Worker – from the Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee). Solidarity – from the Alliance for Workers' Liberty. Fortnightly Economic and Philosophic Science Review – formerly the journal of the International Leninist Workers Party, now an independent website. Scottish Socialist Voice – from the Scottish Socialist Party. Socialist Appeal – from the British section of the International Marxist Tendency. i like how you artificially fleshed out the list, there i can see the millions in there droves getting their daily, weekly, and fortnightly reads of The Morning Star, The News Line, The New Worker, Weekly Worker, Solidarity, Economic and Science Review, Scottish Socialist Voice and Socialist Appeal LOL So yes, meanwhile, when it comes to the normal newspapers most people in the land read, the majority are not left wing. Those being The Mail, The Express, The Sun, The Star, The Time, and The Telegraph, compared to the Independent, Guardian, and Daily Mirror Correct,but the Guardian Mirror and independent are only as left wing as the left of the Conservative party or liberal Democrats,they all follow the establishment line when it comes down to it and the status Quo just look at the treatment Corbyn got,and they all follow the Government on the lunatic foreign policy.
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Post by Morgan on Oct 21, 2022 13:11:15 GMT
This site must be one of the few places in the free world where voters, like some of you lot, actually stand up and say "I am going to vote for a known, selfconfessed liar who has been dismissed from two jobs for lying because I believe he can do what he says." Talk about you couldn't make it up. Does Mummy read you fairy stories every night. Clowns.
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 21, 2022 13:18:50 GMT
Corbyn's first manifesto was ok, but his last one was political suicide.
There were several things in it that would have crashed the economy harder than Truss!!
Can you imagine the markets reactions to his to plan to steal 10% of every company with over 500 employees?
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Post by Morgan on Oct 21, 2022 13:27:35 GMT
Corbyn's first manifesto was ok, but his last one was political suicide. There were several things in it that would have crashed the economy harder than Truss!! Can you imagine the markets reactions to his to plan to steal 10% of every company with over 500 employees? The cry used to be "Anyone but Corbyn." Now it's " Anyone but Johnson."
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Post by jonksy on Oct 21, 2022 13:29:14 GMT
Well it's becoming increasingly clear why some posters have a limited insight in to the full spectrum of politics and political parties, if their only source is trotting to the newsagents every morning to buy their left wing newspapers, that's why they haven't a clue what goes on outside of that bubble. Left-Wingers aren't the brightest stuck out there on the left wing, but then the same applies to Right-Wingers stuck out there on the right wing, which is why both can be considered extremists no matter where they get their information from. And those who try and makeout they are middle of the road are even worse.....
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Post by jonksy on Oct 21, 2022 13:32:21 GMT
Corbyn's first manifesto was ok, but his last one was political suicide. There were several things in it that would have crashed the economy harder than Truss!! Can you imagine the markets reactions to his to plan to steal 10% of every company with over 500 employees? The cry used to be "Anyone but Corbyn." Now it's " Anyone but Johnson." Is it? Your own predictions have been a total failure so far.
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Post by Morgan on Oct 21, 2022 13:51:49 GMT
The cry used to be "Anyone but Corbyn." Now it's " Anyone but Johnson." Is it? Your own predictions have been a total failure so far. I'd forgotten how some people are stupid enough to believe a self confessed liar who is actually laughing at them. Where's he been for last couple of weeks. Was Parliament in recess? No. But he was on holiday, not working for his constituents. He was having a free holiday, courtesy of tax payers. Billionaire brothers give Boris Johnson offices worth £85,000. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-conservative-party-zac-goldsmith-liverpool-street-british-b2207164.htmlWhy do think billionires are supporting him? Do you think this will benefit you or the general public in any way? Of course not. He will make sure his donors get contracts and peerages though. And you support him? You must be bloody mad.
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Post by sword on Oct 21, 2022 14:06:29 GMT
This site must be one of the few places in the free world where voters, like some of you lot, actually stand up and say "I am going to vote for a known, selfconfessed liar who has been dismissed from two jobs for lying because I believe he can do what he says." Talk about you couldn't make it up. Does Mummy read you fairy stories every night. Clowns. I call it the Berlusconi effect,although with Johnson desciples its more like the Mussolini effect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 14:59:25 GMT
Yet again its - STALEMATE - for the Conservatives
They COULD bring back Boris, but then look at this ...... Tory source reckons around a dozen Conservative MPs will resign the whip if Boris Johnson wins the leadership race 12:35 pm · 21 Oct 2022 ·Twitter Web App ( Tweet from Rachel Wearmouth, The New Statesman )
There are also some rumours floating about that if Boris is brought back as PM, some Conservative MPs will instigate By-Elections.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 21, 2022 15:02:42 GMT
I know it can apply both ways, but that's generally because it's a 'family tradition' thing. My dad voted Labour/Tory like his dad, and his before him and so on.
Basically in some cases it's nothing to do with politics and more to do with family tradition, they are the diehards you wont change their politics, however having said that when Johnson won his 2019 landslide general election he actually broke that mould, and many traditional labour voters voted Tory, unfortunately the Tories are destroying that legacy.
No matey it has everything to do with stupidity and a liar who spews garbage for those who cannot think for themselves and want to hear. Basically racist prats. . And Johnston did not win the 2019 elections. Lunatic left wing loony Labour under Corbyn who even labour supporters could not vote for. That no longer prevails.. . And you are voting and rooting for for a clown that was as big a disaster as Corbyn . Just a different disaster. Immediate death or death by a thousand cuts and that is now coming to fruition. And it is now longer a Conservative party. It is a bunch of Little Englander UKIP thinking right wing out and fascist who cannot even last as long as a lettuce. The stupidity starts with even considering a liar who will be the subject of a standard committee. If found guilty and banned for more than 10 days. His constituents can trigger a by election, Not to mention and I cannot recall the exact figure. Some 51 members of his own government resigned because the lies this prat spewed. So who is left. Let me think now. You could have Nadine Dorries as the Chancellor coupled with being the Home Secretary. The Tory's Dianne Abbot. Then of course there is JRM. He could be the ambassador to Rwanda along with being the Foreign Secretary. As long as his nanny is allowed to go with him. If it has not entered your swede they are bunch of second rate clueless wankers. Then you really need to go and see body and fast. That is about it. No one less will work for that racist lying prat.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 21, 2022 15:22:12 GMT
I know it can apply both ways, but that's generally because it's a 'family tradition' thing. My dad voted Labour/Tory like his dad, and his before him and so on.
Basically in some cases it's nothing to do with politics and more to do with family tradition, they are the diehards you wont change their politics, however having said that when Johnson won his 2019 landslide general election he actually broke that mould, and many traditional labour voters voted Tory, unfortunately the Tories are destroying that legacy.
No matey it has everything to do with stupidity and a liar who spews garbage for those who cannot think for themselves and want to hear. Basically racist prats. . And Johnston did not win the 2019 elections. Lunatic left wing loony Labour under Corbyn who even labour supporters could not vote for. That no longer prevails.. . And you are voting and rooting for for a clown that was as big a disaster as Corbyn . Just a different disaster. Immediate death or death by a thousand cuts and that is now coming to fruition. And it is now longer a Conservative party. It is a bunch of Little Englander UKIP thinking right wing out and fascist who cannot even last as long as a lettuce. The stupidity starts with even considering a liar who will be the subject of a standard committee. If found guilty and banned for more than 10 days. His constituents can trigger a by election, Not to mention and I cannot recall the exact figure. Some 51 members of his own government resigned because the lies this prat spewed. So who is left. Let me think now. You could have Nadine Dorries as the Chancellor coupled with being the Home Secretary. The Tory's Dianne Abbot. Then of course there is JRM. He could be the ambassador to Rwanda along with being the Foreign Secretary. As long as his nanny is allowed to go with him. If it has not entered your swede they are bunch of second rate clueless wankers. Then you really need to go and see body and fast. That is about it. No one less will work for that racist lying prat. Will you piss off and stop hounding me from thread to thread, I told you I'm not reading your lengthy repetitive rants, go bore someone else to tears, you might convince them with your SNP peddling lies, you're a brainwashed programmed mouth piece, now sling your hook.
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Post by borchester on Oct 21, 2022 15:40:48 GMT
Starmer & Co must be absolutely shitting it!
Boris will have one hell of a job when (hopefully) he gets back in as PM. The gap between the Tories and Labour is now so vast that by now Starmer should be given Charles III's job.
Still, if anyone can do it it will be Bojo, the Comeback Kid
Thank God, a bit of excitement in our politics. I don't wish to be ungallant, but Liz Truss was the Joe Biden of UK politics. The only interesting bits were waiting to see her fall arse over teakettle
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Post by see2 on Oct 21, 2022 15:52:47 GMT
Left-Wingers aren't the brightest stuck out there on the left wing, but then the same applies to Right-Wingers stuck out there on the right wing, which is why both can be considered extremists no matter where they get their information from. And those who try and makeout they are middle of the road are even worse..... I agree, trying to make out would be false, but not to be confused with the real thing. Some might think your posts would improve with a touch of moderation so don't knock centre left or centre right of politics.
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