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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 1:01:22 GMT
As lefties have control over academia, media and the civil service they should be seen as THE establishment. So the establishment accusing their detractors as extremists is predictable l I can't disagree with that. |
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Post by Orac on Mar 3, 2023 9:35:52 GMT
A recent audit revealed the Prevent Programme had identified the comedies Yes minister and The Thick Of It as red flags of right wing extremism I actually have the DVD set of Yes Minister. The idea that I have extremist material in my possession can only be extremist. I don't even think Xi would go that far, even though North Korea locks people up over watching Hollywood made films. Excellent series of course - one the best ever. Apart from cynicism about the motives those involved in politics, there is practically no political content or commentary. It occurs to me that by today's standards it is actually very cynical about the establishment indeed. The Establishment is painted as entirely disinterested in all issues except the furtherance of their own power and comfort. Ministers (the part of the government we elect) are painted as powerlessly trapped and reliant on the self absorbed, reality defying machinery. "Children? What on Earth has the department of education got to do with children?"So, these notions, observations and critiques are now considered dissident? How odd is that? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 13:23:19 GMT
I actually have the DVD set of Yes Minister. The idea that I have extremist material in my possession can only be extremist. I don't even think Xi would go that far, even though North Korea locks people up over watching Hollywood made films. Excellent series of course - one the best ever. Apart from cynicism about the motives those involved in politics, there is practically no political content or commentary. It occurs to me that by today's standards it is actually very cynical about the establishment indeed. The Establishment is painted as entirely disinterested in all issues except the furtherance of their own power and comfort. Ministers (the part of the government we elect) are painted as powerlessly trapped and reliant on the self absorbed, reality defying machinery. "Children? What on Earth has the department of education got to do with children?"So, these notions, observations and critiques are now considered dissident? How odd is that? It does highlight the fact that the establishment is very insecure and paranoid. It's so far gone that it is in a place of no return, so obviously has to rely on censorship and oppression to maintain momentum. The question that does require answering is how do the people stop it? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 3, 2023 14:36:52 GMT
I just heard on a news bulletin that the four schoolboys who were suspended for 'scratching' a copy of the koran have received death threats.
Lets put this in perspective.
There is a lot in the news right now about the police and MI5 who missed opportunities to stop the Manchester Arena bomber and the fact that political correctnes played a part in Salman Abedi, a Muslim Islamist extremist, not being stopped or challenged before he murdered 22 men women and children in the name of his god.
Let me tell you something, anyone who calls for a fourteen year old boy to be killed because he scratched a book, is perfectly capable of carrying a bomb into an event. Anyone who calls for someone to be killed because he scratched a book should be rounded up arrested charged and put before the courts, and I'm talking about our courts, not sharia bloody courts.
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Post by Orac on Mar 3, 2023 17:00:30 GMT
Yes - the victims have been terrorised into not making a legitimate complaint and so the only complaint left is the entirely bogus one against the child.
This is how you build a total armpit.
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 4, 2023 7:35:36 GMT
I think this situation demands governmental intervention. Braverman should instruct the police to arrest and charge those who have threatened the boy. This should be made a test case to ram home the message that muslims have to follow OUR laws. Will it happen? Of course not. Everybody's frightened.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 4, 2023 8:00:51 GMT
There can be no freedom of religion without freedom of blasphemy.
That goes for accidentally and also on purpose.
Have a situation in which religious people are not bullied or bullies.
Where religious people become bullies, reprimand and if serious, prosecute them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 9:51:42 GMT
There can be no freedom of religion without freedom of blasphemy. That goes for accidentally and also on purpose. Have a situation in which religious people are not bullied or bullies. Where religious people become bullies, reprimand and if serious, prosecute them. Nailed it, really. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 4, 2023 11:32:57 GMT
Cheers
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Post by sword on Mar 4, 2023 21:03:58 GMT
I think there more to this story than just a few scuffed pages and a torn page has reported. Especally seeing the school suspened the boys and called the police in and then the police charging the Boys. It seems one of the Boys brought the koran in to damage it publicly. Now we are getting to it,i wouldn't believe a Daily Mail article without triple checking it,they have previous for whipping up hate. |
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Post by sword on Mar 4, 2023 21:13:25 GMT
As lefties have control over academia, media and the civil service they should be seen as THE establishment. So the establishment accusing their detractors as extremists is predictable l The left control the media LOL! |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 4, 2023 21:38:59 GMT
As lefties have control over academia, media and the civil service they should be seen as THE establishment. So the establishment accusing their detractors as extremists is predictable l The left control the media LOL! Of course. There are more centrist news outlets, Talk TV & GB News for instance but they are hardly mainstream. Anyone who thinks the mainstream media in this country is not centrist/centre left, is either left wing or doesn't understand politics. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 5, 2023 1:27:17 GMT
We are nominally at least a Christian country,we cannot allow another’s faith to be above the law.
They are of course free to worship but it’s a case of when in Rome,and in this Rome there’s no blasphemy laws there are films like the life of Brian though and it’s accepted,not saying they be targeted but this situation is ridiculous,it’s not right or left wing nor terrorism to have a sense of humour and a sense of perspective,it’s a book and if your religion is so fragile it cannot tolerate this then it deserves no recognition at all.
It has to be made clear that sharia law holds no sway here that Islam is a guest in our house and needs to abide by the norms of our society,if they expect the freedom of worship they must tolerate our mores.
What would they do if a comedian in the style of Dave Allen appeared,irreverent very funny and no doubt have a fatwa on his head in todays Britain and be banned or censored by much of the establishment.
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just read this ,there’s more in wiki
So there we have it notwithstanding it has no protection because we have no blasphemy laws here but it was a translation into English so according to the above isn’t sacred,perhaps this should be pointed out
to those making all the fuss and those listening to them and persecuting a young autistic lad.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 5, 2023 2:59:31 GMT
As lefties have control over academia, media and the civil service they should be seen as THE establishment. So the establishment accusing their detractors as extremists is predictable l The left control the media LOL! Not in the Nazi fetish world of you and Putin . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 5, 2023 3:37:17 GMT
There can be no freedom of religion without freedom of blasphemy. That goes for accidentally and also on purpose. Have a situation in which religious people are not bullied or bullies. Where religious people become bullies, reprimand and if serious, prosecute them. Of course you can have freedom of religion without freedom of blasphemy, what a ridiculous thing to say. We have no blasphemy laws in this country. Unlike third world Islamic countries, we have moved on, the west has evolved and moved on. At least it was moving on, until the late 20th early 21st century, when President Blair fucked things up on a scale that will forever be recorded in English history as the biggest betrayal of the British people. If Blair had done similar in medieval times, he would have been executed. And rightly so. |
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