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Post by Vinny on Mar 6, 2023 11:49:09 GMT
Lukewarm Thomas? You've behaved absolutely fanatically of late, you came across as a starry eyed cultist who wanted to be back in the EU.
You supported a cultist party who did their bit to prevent EFTA membership being debated by trying to stop us leaving. So instead of having a how we leave debate, they had an if we leave debate (and lost).
Well done.
You gave Boris Johnson an 80 seat majority.
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Post by thomas on Mar 6, 2023 11:57:40 GMT
Boris johnson voted against EFTA........
Stope it now pacifico , its getting embarressing now.
Parliament at that time consisted of 70% remain supporting MP's - had they wanted EFTA membership we would have it by now. Try and learn something about the subject at least.. The point is , at the time , all the prominent brexiters including your hero voted against it .
Here mate have a wee read.
You have also had plenty of time to go down the EFTA route since the 80 seat landslide majority over three years ago ,and you havent . The peurile excuses , like the whole brexit debacle itself is wearing thin pacifico.
Face it mate , you dont know what you want. We have had 7 years of cakesim , and now cakesim isnt looking like a reality , its crawling back begging for something you previously voted against....
How embarressing mate.
No surrender to the EU and all that........
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Post by thomas on Mar 6, 2023 11:58:50 GMT
Lukewarm Thomas? You've behaved absolutely fanatically of late, you came across as a starry eyed cultist who wanted to be back in the EU. You supported a cultist party who did their bit to prevent EFTA membership being debated by trying to stop us leaving. So instead of having a how we leave debate, they had an if we leave debate (and lost). Well done. You gave Boris Johnson an 80 seat majority. Johnson lost in scotland vinny. I didnt give him nothing.
The eu is the future mate. Embrace it , as you cant avoid it.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 6, 2023 12:00:46 GMT
Scotland is part of the UK and it was a UK election and a UK referendum. Not my fault that you chose to vote for the Scottish equivalent of the BNP.
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Post by thomas on Mar 6, 2023 12:08:34 GMT
Scotland is part of the UK and it was a UK election and a UK referendum. Not my fault that you chose to vote for the Scottish equivalent of the BNP. northern ireland is part of the eu , and brexiters lost a referendum there.
Not my fault your prime minister and the previous ones sold them down the river to be annexed by the mighty EU.
i thought you told me the snp were woke lefties? Geez vinny i cant keep up with your lies and fantasy ,or is it a simple case you dont understand politics and where parties sit on the political spectrum?
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 6, 2023 12:11:23 GMT
Lukewarm Thomas? You've behaved absolutely fanatically of late, you came across as a starry eyed cultist who wanted to be back in the EU. You supported a cultist party who did their bit to prevent EFTA membership being debated by trying to stop us leaving. So instead of having a how we leave debate, they had an if we leave debate (and lost). Well done. You gave Boris Johnson an 80 seat majority. I think with his transgconfused FM giving up on independence Tommy is left a little salty. Now he's on a wind-up about Brexit because he's hurting. He's even pretending to be pro-EU so the UK can be dragged back into it, knowing full well his freedom from his King will never come to fruition. Desperate times for the wee Jock.
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Post by thomas on Mar 6, 2023 12:29:27 GMT
Lukewarm Thomas? You've behaved absolutely fanatically of late, you came across as a starry eyed cultist who wanted to be back in the EU. You supported a cultist party who did their bit to prevent EFTA membership being debated by trying to stop us leaving. So instead of having a how we leave debate, they had an if we leave debate (and lost). Well done. You gave Boris Johnson an 80 seat majority. I think with his transgconfused FM giving up on independence Tommy is left a little salty. Now he's on a wind-up about Brexit because he's hurting. He's even pretending to be pro-EU so the UK can be dragged back into it, knowing full well his freedom from his King will never come to fruition. Desperate times for the wee Jock. ah talking about horatio hornblower. In comes buckfast.
You can talk to me buckfast and not about me.
I havent given up on anything but im no one to look a gift horse in the mouth. I can smell the defeat of brexiters from here , as the public mood swings away from the cakeism of the last 7 years.
How so? there are many in the snp who support the monarchy in an indy scotland. Indeed that was the case for a century prior to 1707. England hasnt had a proper english family in the monarchty since that wee anglo saxon guy had his eye taken out by a french arrow 1000 years ago.Since then , its been french german dutch scottish and welsh interlopers.
So the idea independence is wholly dependent on a monarch is laughable . Of course as a republican , i dont support the outdated monarchy.
Why do i always feel a wee bit of education is wasted on you buckfast?
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Post by Vinny on Mar 6, 2023 13:00:49 GMT
Lukewarm Thomas? You've behaved absolutely fanatically of late, you came across as a starry eyed cultist who wanted to be back in the EU. You supported a cultist party who did their bit to prevent EFTA membership being debated by trying to stop us leaving. So instead of having a how we leave debate, they had an if we leave debate (and lost). Well done. You gave Boris Johnson an 80 seat majority. Johnson lost in scotland vinny. I didnt give him nothing.
The eu is the future mate. Embrace it , as you cant avoid it. It wasn't a Scottish election or a Scottish referendum. You helped him win in the General Election by denying Labour a huge number of seats. And in the referendum you lost. It was a UK election and a UK referendum. UK's membership of the EU is in the past. CPTPP is the future. Get over it.
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Post by thomas on Mar 6, 2023 17:05:11 GMT
Johnson lost in scotland vinny. I didnt give him nothing.
The eu is the future mate. Embrace it , as you cant avoid it. It wasn't a Scottish election or a Scottish referendum. You helped him win in the General Election by denying Labour a huge number of seats. Had labour taken every seat in scotland they would still have lost vinny. You do realise general elections are generally won and lost in england for westmsinter which has 82 % of the seats ?
and northern ireland is still part of the eu , quashing that old argument. Do keep up vincent.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 6, 2023 17:28:15 GMT
Ah yes we are all fecked because we dare stand up to the EU, but on the other hand maybe not as fecked as the Scots who willingly voted SNP. Who don't have a clue what a women is, has leaders who need to consult with the local Mosque, while calling yourself a woman so you can rape women is all good. While the locals get stabbed and raped by immigrants is just the norm.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 6, 2023 17:32:23 GMT
Yep, don't need lectures on politics from the SNP cult who don't even know what women are and got upset when the Tories blocked the perverts charter.
The SNP seems to think Scotland with one tenth of the population of England, should have as many MPs as England despite historically being the swing state in General Elections.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2023 17:45:21 GMT
Lukewarm Thomas? You've behaved absolutely fanatically of late, you came across as a starry eyed cultist who wanted to be back in the EU. You supported a cultist party who did their bit to prevent EFTA membership being debated by trying to stop us leaving. So instead of having a how we leave debate, they had an if we leave debate (and lost). Well done. You gave Boris Johnson an 80 seat majority. Johnson lost in scotland vinny. I didnt give him nothing.
The eu is the future mate. Embrace it , as you cant avoid it. Very Sunakian in maturity and pragmatism.
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Post by thomas on Mar 6, 2023 17:46:13 GMT
The SNP seems to think Scotland with one tenth of the population of England, should have as many MPs as England despite historically being the swing state in General Elections. No vinny we are going over old ground here yet again , and i also appreciate you have a selective memory. When ireland joined westmisnter the popualtion of the then uk was 14 million. half in england half in scotland ireland and wales.
While the voting franchise was different , the irish electorate under the same voting franchise of the time as england was similar size , yet england still got 80 % of seats representing half the popualtion on 40 % of the land.
So the political imbalance favouring one nation at westmisnter has of course always been there .
im not in the snp vinny. You can of course repeat the same lie ad nauseum , but the fact remains im a scot ndy supporter not an snp member.
i know what a woman is. Many if not most of the snp membership know what a woman is. Principled snp politicians like ash regan and joanna cherry of the boris johnson lie ridicule shame know what a woman is.
You need to stop screaming a the top of your voice mate and calmly tell us who you are talking about. For exmaple english politicians similarly like penny mordaunt of the tories or keir starmer dont seem to know what a woman is either , but im sure many in both their parties do.
well thats the trouble with devolution .power devolved is power retained and all that .No matter how bad the law , we need a sovereign scottish parliament making all the decisions , and of course sharing our sovereignty with our european parliament in brussells.
We need EU law in scotland , and EU rights and freedoms.
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Post by thomas on Mar 6, 2023 17:48:45 GMT
Johnson lost in scotland vinny. I didnt give him nothing.
The eu is the future mate. Embrace it , as you cant avoid it. Very Sunakian in maturity and pragmatism. just a bit of fun with my mate vincent. for some reason he goes all to pieces when you mention the EU.
I dont normally like being compared to anglo tories , but i must say rishi the remainer is my favourite tory pro european after helping northern ireland maintain its place in the EU.
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Post by thomas on Mar 6, 2023 18:03:34 GMT
Brexit: Rishi Sunak's Windsor Framework for Nothern Ireland is symptomatic of all that's wrong with today's Tories – Brian Monteith
Rishi Sunak’s Windsor Framework agreement with the European Union represents everything that is wrong with today’s Conservative and Unionist Party. By rejecting the expedient concoction of convenience over constitutional principles the DUP would do us all a favour by rejecting it.
The truth eventually had to come out about what exactly our Prime Minister and his “Brexiteer” ministers in the Northern Ireland Office had signed-off with the EU’s Ursula von der Leyen. Unfortunately, it is neither Conservative nor Unionist and deserves to be sent back under the Sale of Goods Act as not fit for purpose. It neither meets the description advertised nor delivers the benefits claimed.
Launched personally by Rishi Sunak it was more like watching Tony Blair in his pomp – being rich in platitudes that sounded comforting and reassuring – but once analysed was clearly oversold and more likely to entrench existing problems. Further, like Blair’s constitutional meddling, it will affect generations to come and could yet prove to be a ratchet towards further instability.
Rishis deal isnt going down very well as the small print comes under scrutiny .
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