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Post by thomas on Mar 7, 2023 16:13:16 GMT
The closest relationship to the eu is being a member , what we had , and the next best thing is EFTA. Had all scotlands representatives voted for EFTA membership the tory brexiter vote and other english parties votes would have still swung the vote the opposite way .
Only 59 tories voted for it . 34 snp voted against. Add the two together along with the few labour , that would have given the "ayes "98 , and the "noes" 343 . A big fat no to EFTA.
Desperate stuff pacifico.  That's democracy Tommy McRobinson. point.........over .....head as per. |
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Post by thomas on Mar 7, 2023 16:15:05 GMT
Sure , the whole point of scottish indy is to make the peurile representation we get in englands parliament zero vinny.
Why bother with your parliament when we have our own? For those who need two parliaments , we also have our european parliament in brussells , the future. Making yours redundant.
When england rejoins the EU , perhaps you could turn westmisnter into a tourist attraction?
Why bother with our parliament when you have your own? well im all for the snp and the rest of the scottish mps doing a sinn fein and refusing to sit in englands parliament , but unfortunately it appears to be too radical for the party hierarchy.
Why does your parliament bother interfering constantly in ours when you have your own?
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 7, 2023 18:37:28 GMT
The SNP actually voted against a closer relationship with the EU - and now you are on here complaining that we dont have closer relationship with the EU. Are all Indy supporters this detached? We wanted to give you a chance to fuck brexit up mate so we could watch while laughing as you were dragged back in a few years down the line kicking and screaming .
Well you are not laughing much - all you do all day is come on here bitching about it.. |
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 11:21:10 GMT
We wanted to give you a chance to fuck brexit up mate so we could watch while laughing as you were dragged back in a few years down the line kicking and screaming .
Well you are not laughing much - all you do all day is come on here bitching about it.. pointing out the truth might be inconvenient to brexiters , but its worth doing all the same. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 8, 2023 11:38:55 GMT
Truth?
Pull the other one.
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 11:59:02 GMT
Truth? Pull the other one. Says the guy who has just demanded scotland bring in pr to defeat the snp....when scotland has had pr for the last nigh on quarter of a century..................
Im beginning to think you are a spotty nosed teenager vinny whose mummy doesnt know you post on adult forums.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 8, 2023 13:01:18 GMT
I want the UK to bring in PR in General Elections to create more democratic choice.
The fact that it would destroy the Scottish Nazi Party as a side effect is one great big lovely bonus.
Do not twist things, SNAT.
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 13:53:03 GMT
I want the UK to bring in PR in General Elections to create more democratic choice. The fact that it would destroy the Scottish Nazi Party as a side effect is one great big lovely bonus. Do not twist things, SNAT. We have pr in scotland for the umpteenth time ,and it hasnt destroyed the snp.
We have fptp when voting for your parliament and is hasnt destroyed the snp.
If you would stop screaming in a rage , and engage your brain for a second you would see the stupidity of your argument.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 8, 2023 15:58:58 GMT
For the umpteenth time, devolved little SNAT council elections are not General Elections.
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 17:03:41 GMT
For the umpteenth time, devolved little SNAT council elections are not General Elections. vinny. Scotland has local elections seperate from england that are pr.
Scotland has national elections seperate from england that is pr.
Scotland has elections for your parliament that is fptp. The snp won all three.
So what are you talking about?
1. the dastardly vincent plan to destroy the snp using something different to fptp hasnt worked.
2. scotland cant change englands voting system for you mate. Bleat to your ruling parties , labour and tory , they are the ones who want it to stay the same.
Dear fucking god do you actually have a coherent point vinny?
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Post by Vinny on Mar 8, 2023 18:54:00 GMT
Explicitly pointed out General Elections little SNAT. Then you went into strawman fallacy mode.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 22:04:40 GMT
The EU is the De Facto law maker when it comes to economic and trade rules and regulations in all of Europe.
Not only in the EU, but also in the wider European Economic Area, where the EU rules apply
Also outside of the EEA too - in Switzerland where many EU regulations apply, also in those countries with Association Agreements, such as Turkey and all of the Balkan countries not currently part of the EU.
Three former Soviet Republics have "Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Agreements", Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia.
EU regulations are applied to one degree or another in virtually every European nation
So why do many politicians in this country think that we can do business in Europe and avoid EU regulations ?
Why cannot we just accept that in order to make life easier, simpler and less complicated,it would be in everyones best interests if we aligned our economic and trade regulations with the rest of Europe.
The Conservative Party are basically cutting off their nose to spite their face, its childish, and its doing a lot of harm to British business and British industry and British jobs.
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 8, 2023 22:26:30 GMT
The EU is the De Facto law maker when it comes to economic and trade rules and regulations in all of Europe. Not only in the EU, but also in the wider European Economic Area, where the EU rules apply Also outside of the EEA too - in Switzerland where many EU regulations apply, also in those countries with Association Agreements, such as Turkey and all of the Balkan countries not currently part of the EU. Three former Soviet Republics have "Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Agreements", Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia. EU regulations are applied to one degree or another in virtually every European nation So why do many politicians in this country think that we can do business in Europe and avoid EU regulations Why cannot we just accept that in order to make life easier, simpler and less complicated,it would be in everyones best interests if we aligned our economic and trade regulations with the rest of Europe.
The Conservative Party are basically cutting off their nose to spite their face, its childish, and its doing a lot of harm to British business and British industry and British jobs. I think you lost this argument 7 years ago. In fact I'll give you an example of why I don't think its in our interest to align with the EU. The EU has just brought in new financial regulations that mean that all investment products must have a KID (Key Information Document). I have for years traded US ETF's and CEF's but now, suddenly, I am banned from such products as they don't have a KID. I can still buy the individual company shares that are in the funds but not the funds themselves. Given that one of the reasons for buying funds instead of individual shares is to spread the risk, we now have an EU rule that makes investing more volatile for the private investor. I had hoped that leaving the EU would have allowed us to regulate better but it appears not. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 8, 2023 22:57:57 GMT
The EU is the De Facto law maker when it comes to economic and trade rules and regulations in all of Europe. Not only in the EU, but also in the wider European Economic Area, where the EU rules apply Also outside of the EEA too - in Switzerland where many EU regulations apply, also in those countries with Association Agreements, such as Turkey and all of the Balkan countries not currently part of the EU. Three former Soviet Republics have "Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Agreements", Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia. EU regulations are applied to one degree or another in virtually every European nation So why do many politicians in this country think that we can do business in Europe and avoid EU regulations Why cannot we just accept that in order to make life easier, simpler and less complicated,it would be in everyones best interests if we aligned our economic and trade regulations with the rest of Europe. The Conservative Party are basically cutting off their nose to spite their face, its childish, and its doing a lot of harm to British business and British industry and British jobs. Switzerland voted to leave the EEA agreement in 1992. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 9, 2023 2:12:35 GMT
We wanted to give you a chance to fuck brexit up mate so we could watch while laughing as you were dragged back in a few years down the line kicking and screaming .
Well you are not laughing much - all you do all day is come on here bitching about it.. Come on Tam fess up, that's not what the average unbiased spectator would call an entirely inaccurate assessment, is it. |
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