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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 23, 2023 11:56:48 GMT
It's mad, but it will happen. It's inevitable. Digital ID cards and a cashless society, privacy will be a thing of the past. I suspect that privacy is already a thing of the past, the lack of privacy on a computer is already a fact, though I guess it is helping to sort out would be terrorists, crooks and pedophiles etc. so I find it acceptable. At the moment I can be fairly private, I have never used facebook, twitter etc in my life, I refuse to do online banking or shopping, I don't have a hand held tracker, and I regularly use cash rather than card. I know I cant be completely anonymous but at the moment I can do a lot to protect my privacy. Digital ID cards are the thin edge of a very thick wedge that will ensure privacy becomes a thing of the past. |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 23, 2023 12:09:01 GMT
I suspect that privacy is already a thing of the past, the lack of privacy on a computer is already a fact, though I guess it is helping to sort out would be terrorists, crooks and pedophiles etc. so I find it acceptable. At the moment I can be fairly private, I have never used facebook, twitter etc in my life, I refuse to do online banking or shopping, I don't have a hand held tracker, and I regularly use cash rather than card. I know I cant be completely anonymous but at the moment I can do a lot to protect my privacy. Digital ID cards are the thin edge of a very thick wedge that will ensure privacy becomes a thing of the past. Whatever the case the past record of various HM govts and such computerised projects do not bode well with cost overruns,software failures and security flaws. |
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Post by Handyman on Feb 23, 2023 12:19:08 GMT
I am in favour of ID Cards for all to be shown to confirm your identity as and when required but they can be forged in this day and age , I am not in favour of a Digital ID lose your Iphone of it it get stolen or hacked, they will know everything about you.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 23, 2023 12:24:37 GMT
At the moment I can be fairly private, I have never used facebook, twitter etc in my life, I refuse to do online banking or shopping, I don't have a hand held tracker, and I regularly use cash rather than card. I know I cant be completely anonymous but at the moment I can do a lot to protect my privacy. Digital ID cards are the thin edge of a very thick wedge that will ensure privacy becomes a thing of the past. Whatever the case the past record of various HM govts and such computerised projects do not bode well with cost overruns,software failures and security flaws. ID cards are the perfect example. When the Tories wone in 2010 they scrapped the medical ID card project which Labour had started and at that time had spent £11billion on. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 23, 2023 14:00:02 GMT
I suspect that privacy is already a thing of the past, the lack of privacy on a computer is already a fact, though I guess it is helping to sort out would be terrorists, crooks and pedophiles etc. so I find it acceptable. At the moment I can be fairly private, I have never used facebook, twitter etc in my life, I refuse to do online banking or shopping, I don't have a hand held tracker, and I regularly use cash rather than card. I know I cant be completely anonymous but at the moment I can do a lot to protect my privacy. Digital ID cards are the thin edge of a very thick wedge that will ensure privacy becomes a thing of the past. The likelihood is that a lot more is known about you than you can even begin to imagine. That's society today. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 23, 2023 14:02:22 GMT
Whatever the case the past record of various HM govts and such computerised projects do not bode well with cost overruns,software failures and security flaws. ID cards are the perfect example. When the Tories wone in 2010 they scrapped the medical ID card project which Labour had started and at that time had spent £11billion on. If you are referring to individual recorded health then I believe it failed to be completed but much of it remained in use. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 23, 2023 14:15:25 GMT
You are full of bias and propaganda over Iraq having looked no further than propaganda induced opinion. UN Res.1441 in 2002 was the last of many UN resolutions over a 12year period attempting to get Saddam to comply with the Ceasefire agreement he signed in 1991 and to get full and pro-active cooperation with the UN inspectors. 1441 was A FINAL OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLY, he failed to comply. The follow up Iraq Survey Team that went into Iraq after the invasion found 51 WMD, plus some precursor chemicals for use in the production of WMD along with other missiles that were prohibited by the Ceasefire Agreement. Because of the refusal by Saddam to cooperate with UN inspectors it was impossible for anyone to declare Iraq was WMD free. UN 1441 declared Iraq to be a danger to peace in an area that was important to world oil production, as he had already proved with his attack on Kuwait. As Iraq had never complied with the Ceasefire agreement then a state of conflict still existed. I don't know where his wealth came from and apparently neither do you, nevertheless you seem to imply it was come by dishonestly. Wherever his wealth came from it was acquired ATER he left office. Full of bias and propaganda you say! No I have an opinion based on his actions and the consequences of them. Cannot you acknowledge he made the world a more dangerous place,the Arab spring how’s that going? He alone has made himself one of Britains most hated politicians,he did that no one else. You may admire him but that’s not more widely felt. "Based on his actions and the consequences of them". But not on the necessity of them. No not the world but he did involve the UK in the Middle East problems. President Assad of Syria did more damage than Blair when he set his troops against citizens who were demonstrating against him. Blair was not responsible for the Arab Spring, the Arabs involved were. Vile dishonest propaganda against Blair is mostly to blame for his tarnished reputation. I admire the truth regardless of whether it is pro or anti Blair. |
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Post by patman post on Feb 23, 2023 14:21:55 GMT
They are not cards. They are digital IDs to either prove it is you on a device. There is a consultation on gov.uk: www.gov.uk/government/consultations/digital-identity-and-attributes-consultation/digital-identity-and-attributes-consultationWhen I lived in Spain we had a digital ID, it is basically a digital certificate, a few lines of code which are loaded into a browser, or kept on a memory stick which logs the user into government or health websites without any doubt who the user is. The ID can be further password protected. I found it really useful when I lived there. I think it is a way forward to prevent unauthorised logins to sensitive data. Can it be abused? I suppose someone will always find a way. I don't see anything wrong with the idea — in fact, it would save a lot of bother having NI, driving licence, passport, qualifications, right-to-work status, etc, stored in/on one number or code — provided we are able to access all the info the ID code held on us individually... |
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Post by patman post on Feb 23, 2023 14:56:18 GMT
At the moment I can be fairly private, I have never used facebook, twitter etc in my life, I refuse to do online banking or shopping, I don't have a hand held tracker, and I regularly use cash rather than card. I know I cant be completely anonymous but at the moment I can do a lot to protect my privacy. Digital ID cards are the thin edge of a very thick wedge that will ensure privacy becomes a thing of the past. The likelihood is that a lot more is known about you than you can even begin to imagine. That's society today. But there's lots more of interest in Society Today than just bits and pieces about our own humdrum lives. I particularly recommend this past article: The Truth Behind Chicken Tikka Masala ...
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Post by Bentley on Feb 23, 2023 15:00:15 GMT
ID chips under the skin anyone?
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 23, 2023 15:02:54 GMT
At the moment I can be fairly private, I have never used facebook, twitter etc in my life, I refuse to do online banking or shopping, I don't have a hand held tracker, and I regularly use cash rather than card. I know I cant be completely anonymous but at the moment I can do a lot to protect my privacy. Digital ID cards are the thin edge of a very thick wedge that will ensure privacy becomes a thing of the past. The likelihood is that a lot more is known about you than you can even begin to imagine. That's society today. It's unlikely that anyone or any agency knows more about me than 'I could even begin to imagine'. There is no record of me on any social media. I do not carry a hand held tracker. I do not do online banking. I do not shop or pay bills on line. I regularly use cash rather than card. I don't use store loyalty cards. I am aware we all leave a trail, but I intentionally leave less of a trail than most people today. |
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Post by patman post on Feb 23, 2023 15:04:09 GMT
ID chips under the skin anyone? Thought that was already supposed to be happening with Bill Gates's promoted vaccines... |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 23, 2023 15:09:16 GMT
ID chips under the skin anyone? Thought that was already supposed to be happening with Bill Gates's promoted vaccines... So you believe that then? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 23, 2023 15:14:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2023 15:39:36 GMT
Thought that was already supposed to be happening with Bill Gates's promoted vaccines... So you believe that then? No, of course he doesn't, it's PP's way of passive aggressive fun. PP is another Covid cultist. Hands, face and space used to be his tagline. |
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