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Post by see2 on Feb 22, 2023 21:53:23 GMT
They are not cards. They are digital IDs to either prove it is you on a device. There is a consultation on gov.uk: www.gov.uk/government/consultations/digital-identity-and-attributes-consultation/digital-identity-and-attributes-consultationWhen I lived in Spain we had a digital ID, it is basically a digital certificate, a few lines of code which are loaded into a browser, or kept on a memory stick which logs the user into government or health websites without any doubt who the user is. The ID can be further password protected. I found it really useful when I lived there. I think it is a way forward to prevent unauthorised logins to sensitive data. Can it be abused? I suppose someone will always find a way. I don’t doubt you did find it useful and maybe there is a use for it but I’m uncomfortable with becoming a barcode a number. Add to that the despicable Blair,whenever he proposes something I alway see an ulterior motive,and there is one. Its not your fault if you are a naturally sad individual who is easily led by dishonest propaganda against the man. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 22, 2023 21:55:49 GMT
I don't have a "device", nor do I intend to fund the purchase of one, nor spend the time trying to understand how to use it. So fine by me. As most Government agencies such as HMRC, NHS, DWP don't work properly anyway any data contained on such a contraption would be out of date, relate to someone else or be illegible because it will have been hacked in a paddy field somewhere. Their energies would be better used teaching teenagers the alphabet and how to cook properly. Your list looks more like a reason for one than against one. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 22, 2023 21:58:53 GMT
I speed read the title of the thread and thought for one minute it was about Blair being carted off to the International court in the Hague. ..imagine my disappointment..  Me too I thought at long last  sadly no  People like yourself can be a joy, even if it is only for a short while. |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 22, 2023 22:53:01 GMT
I don’t doubt you did find it useful and maybe there is a use for it but I’m uncomfortable with becoming a barcode a number. Add to that the despicable Blair,whenever he proposes something I alway see an ulterior motive,and there is one. It’s not your fault if you are a naturally sad individual who is easily led by dishonest propaganda against the man. And I suppose it’s not your fault you cannot see the truth,he made this country a damn sight more dangerous for its people,was responsible for too many deaths. I need no propaganda it’s clear enough he wanted to impress Bush the brainless,there were no weapons of mass destruction and saddam was no threat to us. Where has his fortune come from? honestly acquired? No chance. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 22, 2023 23:39:45 GMT
It’s not your fault if you are a naturally sad individual who is easily led by dishonest propaganda against the man. And I suppose it’s not your fault you cannot see the truth,he made this country a damn sight more dangerous for its people,was responsible for too many deaths. I need no propaganda it’s clear enough he wanted to impress Bush the brainless,there were no weapons of mass destruction and saddam was no threat to us. Where has his fortune come from? honestly acquired? No chance. And the prick got knighted for it. Go figure.... |
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Post by Handyman on Feb 23, 2023 7:45:27 GMT
It’s not your fault if you are a naturally sad individual who is easily led by dishonest propaganda against the man. And I suppose it’s not your fault you cannot see the truth,he made this country a damn sight more dangerous for its people,was responsible for too many deaths. I need no propaganda it’s clear enough he wanted to impress Bush the brainless,there were no weapons of mass destruction and saddam was no threat to us. Where has his fortune come from? honestly acquired? No chance. He took the UK into at least five armed conflicts and IMO made the world more dangerous and made the UK a target for Muslim Jihadis, that is why 9/11 happened, that is why we have terror attacks in the UK and across the EU, they were coming for us anyway , he and Bush just made happen sooner |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 23, 2023 7:49:41 GMT
It's mad, but it will happen. It's inevitable. Digital ID cards and a cashless society, privacy will be a thing of the past. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Feb 23, 2023 7:58:03 GMT
They are not cards. They are digital IDs to either prove it is you on a device. There is a consultation on gov.uk: www.gov.uk/government/consultations/digital-identity-and-attributes-consultation/digital-identity-and-attributes-consultationWhen I lived in Spain we had a digital ID, it is basically a digital certificate, a few lines of code which are loaded into a browser, or kept on a memory stick which logs the user into government or health websites without any doubt who the user is. The ID can be further password protected. I found it really useful when I lived there. I think it is a way forward to prevent unauthorised logins to sensitive data. Can it be abused? I suppose someone will always find a way. Someone will always find a way, but at least it'll make life more difficult for criminals - that's all we can ever do. And it should make life easier for honest people. I would support this. The French say that the British "pull factor" is partly because of the ease with which illegals can work in the black economy. This could make it more difficult. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 23, 2023 8:21:39 GMT
It’s not your fault if you are a naturally sad individual who is easily led by dishonest propaganda against the man. And I suppose it’s not your fault you cannot see the truth,he made this country a damn sight more dangerous for its people,was responsible for too many deaths. I need no propaganda it’s clear enough he wanted to impress Bush the brainless,there were no weapons of mass destruction and saddam was no threat to us. Where has his fortune come from? honestly acquired? No chance. You are full of bias and propaganda over Iraq having looked no further than propaganda induced opinion. UN Res.1441 in 2002 was the last of many UN resolutions over a 12year period attempting to get Saddam to comply with the Ceasefire agreement he signed in 1991 and to get full and pro-active cooperation with the UN inspectors. 1441 was A FINAL OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLY, he failed to comply. The follow up Iraq Survey Team that went into Iraq after the invasion found 51 WMD, plus some precursor chemicals for use in the production of WMD along with other missiles that were prohibited by the Ceasefire Agreement. Because of the refusal by Saddam to cooperate with UN inspectors it was impossible for anyone to declare Iraq was WMD free. UN 1441 declared Iraq to be a danger to peace in an area that was important to world oil production, as he had already proved with his attack on Kuwait. As Iraq had never complied with the Ceasefire agreement then a state of conflict still existed. I don't know where his wealth came from and apparently neither do you, nevertheless you seem to imply it was come by dishonestly. Wherever his wealth came from it was acquired ATER he left office. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 23, 2023 8:31:28 GMT
It's mad, but it will happen. It's inevitable. Digital ID cards and a cashless society, privacy will be a thing of the past. I suspect that privacy is already a thing of the past, the lack of privacy on a computer is already a fact, though I guess it is helping to sort out would be terrorists, crooks and pedophiles etc. so I find it acceptable. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 23, 2023 8:34:55 GMT
And I suppose it’s not your fault you cannot see the truth,he made this country a damn sight more dangerous for its people,was responsible for too many deaths. I need no propaganda it’s clear enough he wanted to impress Bush the brainless,there were no weapons of mass destruction and saddam was no threat to us. Where has his fortune come from? honestly acquired? No chance. He took the UK into at least five armed conflicts and IMO made the world more dangerous and made the UK a target for Muslim Jihadis, that is why 9/11 happened, that is why we have terror attacks in the UK and across the EU, they were coming for us anyway , he and Bush just made happen sooner Hmm, you look like you are attempting to make excuses for terrorism. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 23, 2023 8:37:18 GMT
And I suppose it’s not your fault you cannot see the truth,he made this country a damn sight more dangerous for its people,was responsible for too many deaths. I need no propaganda it’s clear enough he wanted to impress Bush the brainless,there were no weapons of mass destruction and saddam was no threat to us. Where has his fortune come from? honestly acquired? No chance. And the prick got knighted for it. Go figure.... You can't go figure because you are full of bias and nonsense. Free to post any rubbish that comes into your head, and you do. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 23, 2023 8:42:58 GMT
And the prick got knighted for it. Go figure.... You can't go figure because you are full of bias and nonsense. Free to post any rubbish that comes into your head, and you do. Blair did much harm to this country and it's still business as usual for him. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 23, 2023 8:59:06 GMT
You can't go figure because you are full of bias and nonsense. Free to post any rubbish that comes into your head, and you do. Blair did much harm to this country and it's still business as usual for him. He may have done harm, but it was as far as I can see, always for the right reasons. I'm always free to discus. If proof can be shown that what he was doing was wrong then I will accept it, no problem. |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 23, 2023 9:34:10 GMT
And I suppose it’s not your fault you cannot see the truth,he made this country a damn sight more dangerous for its people,was responsible for too many deaths. I need no propaganda it’s clear enough he wanted to impress Bush the brainless,there were no weapons of mass destruction and saddam was no threat to us. Where has his fortune come from? honestly acquired? No chance. You are full of bias and propaganda over Iraq having looked no further than propaganda induced opinion. UN Res.1441 in 2002 was the last of many UN resolutions over a 12year period attempting to get Saddam to comply with the Ceasefire agreement he signed in 1991 and to get full and pro-active cooperation with the UN inspectors. 1441 was A FINAL OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLY, he failed to comply. The follow up Iraq Survey Team that went into Iraq after the invasion found 51 WMD, plus some precursor chemicals for use in the production of WMD along with other missiles that were prohibited by the Ceasefire Agreement. Because of the refusal by Saddam to cooperate with UN inspectors it was impossible for anyone to declare Iraq was WMD free. UN 1441 declared Iraq to be a danger to peace in an area that was important to world oil production, as he had already proved with his attack on Kuwait. As Iraq had never complied with the Ceasefire agreement then a state of conflict still existed. I don't know where his wealth came from and apparently neither do you, nevertheless you seem to imply it was come by dishonestly. Wherever his wealth came from it was acquired ATER he left office. Full of bias and propaganda you say! No I have an opinion based on his actions and the consequences of them. Cannot you acknowledge he made the world a more dangerous place,the Arab spring how’s that going? He alone has made himself one of Britains most hated politicians,he did that no one else. You may admire him but that’s not more widely felt. |
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