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Post by Steve on Feb 27, 2023 14:17:29 GMT
It's about domination and psychology. The British public have to be put in their place and humiliating them in this way is a superb vehicle to that end. How paranoic |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 27, 2023 14:30:45 GMT
It's about domination and psychology. The British public have to be put in their place and humiliating them in this way is a superb vehicle to that end. How paranoic Oh dear Steve how to win friends and influence people and I don’t mean because the poster is a mod,I know you will bristle at this but you don’t make your life easy. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 27, 2023 14:39:07 GMT
Steve has nothing to fear lol
My moderator inhibitor circuits wont allow me to make enemies of posters. The Third law of forum moderation forbids it
however, if i was actually paranoid...
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Post by jonksy on Feb 27, 2023 14:39:24 GMT
Oh dear Steve how to win friends and influence people and I don’t mean because the poster is a mod,I know you will bristle at this but you don’t make your life easy. This forum has become a bit of culture shock for him mate....He is only used to making others lives a fucking knightmare with his childish little antics. |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 27, 2023 14:53:23 GMT
Steve has nothing to fear lol My moderator inhibitor circuits wont allow me to make enemies of posters. The Third law of forum moderation forbids it however, if i was actually paranoid... Well I specifically ruled out your mod status it’s more treating others like you’d wish to be treated. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 15:04:20 GMT
I'll type even slower. We do not know what the circumstances are under which she travelled to Syria. How do you know "they did so willingly", show me the evidence and I will absorb it. What evidence information given by the security forces, remember Javid is a Tory and Tories are liars and cheat our tax system. Exactly, why can our government find no evidence. You keep saying she is 'considered a serious risk to our security" but offer no evidence to back it up. I give up , you are too daft to be saved You are the one that offers no real thoughts other than "she's guilty" but that without any evidence.😒 Is everybody daft that has a different opinion to you? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 15:06:36 GMT
How do we know she is a risk to national security?
Because she was there? How is she a risk to national security? There is no evidence that she has committed a 'serious' crime such as murder for which she can have her citizenship removed and I not heard anyone make that accusation. There is no evidence, and from what I gather no accusation that she has committed any beatings or murdered anyone and without a trial we will never now. Because our security services have said so, they would give the same advice to any government and any government would be foolish to ignore it. Your defence of her and others is why people like you should never be involved in political decisions. We have had examples of the UK government ignoring security service advice, remember Johnson. Have the security services held a trial? I would not believe a word they say with the Conservatives in charge. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 27, 2023 15:40:41 GMT
Because our security services have said so, they would give the same advice to any government and any government would be foolish to ignore it. Your defence of her and others is why people like you should never be involved in political decisions. We have had examples of the UK government ignoring security service advice, remember Johnson. Have the security services held a trial? I would not believe a word they say with the Conservatives in charge. In which case stop the security services giving advice, is that what you want? |
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Post by Steve on Feb 27, 2023 16:30:50 GMT
Oh dear Steve how to win friends and influence people and I don’t mean because the poster is a mod,I know you will bristle at this but you don’t make your life easy. You do know the difference between playing the ball (as I was) and not the man (as you are) don't you? Seems not. PS How you getting on finding those examples of me being personally abusive? |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 27, 2023 16:32:45 GMT
Oh dear Steve how to win friends and influence people and I don’t mean because the poster is a mod,I know you will bristle at this but you don’t make your life easy. You do know the difference between playing the ball (as I was) and not the man (as you are) don't you? Seems not. PS How you getting on finding those examples of me being personally abusive? How pathetic. Just playing the ball and not the man Steve .👍 |
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Post by Steve on Feb 27, 2023 16:34:44 GMT
Steve has nothing to fear lol My moderator inhibitor circuits wont allow me to make enemies of posters. The Third law of forum moderation forbids it however, if i was actually paranoid... So maybe I need to explain To post 'The British public have to be put in their place and humiliating them in this way is a superb vehicle to that end.' does rather suggest there is a conspiracy to 'get' the British public. IE de facto 'baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others.' And what's a word beginning with P that means 'baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others' ? Clue |
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Post by Orac on Feb 27, 2023 17:17:03 GMT
So maybe I need to explain To post 'The British public have to be put in their place and humiliating them in this way is a superb vehicle to that end.' does rather suggest there is a conspiracy to 'get' the British public. Yes IE de facto 'baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others.'No. This doesn't follow. I would say my view is inducted from repeated experience of somewhat similar scenarios. (generalising)> If there is a plausibly deniable way to humiliate and demoralise the UK public, it will be typically accompanied by two things - pressure from some quarters to pursue exactly that path and the government doing so (sometimes after an apparent struggle). Bad polling, increasing elector apathy, and even the threat of electoral defeat, doesn't seem to make much odds - if one party is defeated putting the boot in, the opposition just continues the same programme while in government (even if they had an explicit manifesto pledge to not do so). And what's a word beginning with P that means 'baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others' Clue I don't have the remotest issue with what you said. I would far prefer you said what you thought rather than worry about being polite (or even correct) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 17:46:45 GMT
We have had examples of the UK government ignoring security service advice, remember Johnson. Have the security services held a trial? I would not believe a word they say with the Conservatives in charge. In which case stop the security services giving advice, is that what you want? Not at all but advice is just that, advice. We also do not know the details of said advice or the voracity of it. Remember Tories lie. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 27, 2023 17:50:48 GMT
In which case stop the security services giving advice, is that what you want? Not at all but advice is just that, advice. We also do not know the details of said advice or the voracity of it. Remember Tories lie. Oh piss off, you're just an apologist for some of the detritus. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 27, 2023 20:18:30 GMT
. . .I don't have the remotest issue with what you said. I would far prefer you said what you thought rather than worry about being polite (or even correct) Cheers but to placate my all new latest stalker I thought I ought to comply with the rules (that say if I call something .....ic then I have to explain why. I seriously disagree, there's always a balance between freedom, leadership and control and similarly between acting for the overall benefit v acting to protect all/most of the vulnerable and people being individuals will always have different sometimes passionately different views on where those balances should be. But to suggest the aim is to humiliate? Come on, really? |
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