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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2023 11:38:33 GMT
Rochdale has nothing to do with me, stop making things up.🤣🤣 You've already gone round this thread screaming "racist". That's exactly why cheeks were turned the other way regarding the rape & grooming of white girls, because folk like you screamed "racist" as soon as skin pigment enters the equation. I have not accused anyone of being a racist but I do 'politely' suggest some people question their reasoning.
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Post by sheepy on Feb 26, 2023 11:38:35 GMT
Until enough people get bored with lawyers milking it for all its worth. Which is fast approaching. Are you saying that lawyers are breaking the law? No as the law has been made to suit their needs not that of the general population.
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Post by Orac on Feb 26, 2023 11:41:17 GMT
Hitchens makes some good points as usual. His best point here is the disconnect between barring Begum's entry and letting (at times aiding) 'god knows who' just wander in as a matter of (apparent) long term unofficial government policy.
My reason for wishing Begum to be barred is simple - I do not feel the authorities can be remotely trusted on this matter. If I felt assured that the authorities (system) would behave competently and honestly, I would far less against her entry.
If I felt 99% assured that she would be tried, face a long jail sentence and actually serve that sentence out of the public's hair, then it becomes a smaller matter. With the authorities the way they are now, I can see her being released early from a short sentence and becoming (say) a teacher - or perhaps being even elevated to an influential position controlling some aspect of our armed forces.
I feel many people wish to bar her from entry because they know, from bitter and repeated experience, that once she is in the games begin.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 26, 2023 12:03:22 GMT
Hitchens makes some good points as usual. His best point here is the disconnect between barring Begum's entry and letting (at times aiding) 'god knows who' just wander in as a matter of (apparent) long term unofficial government policy. My reason for wishing Begum to be barred is simple - I do not feel the authorities can be remotely trusted on this matter. If I felt assured that the authorities (system) would behave competently and honestly, I would far less against her entry. If I felt 99% assured that she would be tried, face a long jail sentence and actually serve that sentence out of the public's hair, then it becomes a smaller matter. With the authorities the way they are now, I can see here being released early from a short sentence and becoming (say) a teacher - or perhaps being even elevated to an influential position controlling some aspect of our armed forces. I feel many people wish to bar her from entry because they know, from bitter and repeated experience, that once she is in the games begin.The bitch would soon become a multi millionair thanks to and aided by our woke media and all the other karen nstitutes that infest our society.
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Post by Orac on Feb 26, 2023 12:15:48 GMT
The bitch would soon become a multi millionair thanks to and aided by our woke media and all the other karen nstitutes that infest our society. This is the very minimum level of humiliation you could expect. On a broader note - Hitchens makes another good point. This is symptomatic of our disintegration as a society. The public's trust in the authorities is at about zero and this distrust does / will destroy society. However, what is public supposed to do with this situation? Lay on the ground with their legs open an let the authorities kick them repeatedly in the goolies?
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Post by wapentake on Feb 26, 2023 12:16:14 GMT
Hitchens makes some good points as usual. His best point here is the disconnect between barring Begum's entry and letting (at times aiding) 'god knows who' just wander in as a matter of (apparent) long term unofficial government policy. My reason for wishing Begum to be barred is simple - I do not feel the authorities can be remotely trusted on this matter. If I felt assured that the authorities (system) would behave competently and honestly, I would far less against her entry. If I felt 99% assured that she would be tried, face a long jail sentence and actually serve that sentence out of the public's hair, then it becomes a smaller matter. With the authorities the way they are now, I can see her being released early from a short sentence and becoming (say) a teacher - or perhaps being even elevated to an influential position controlling some aspect of our armed forces. I feel many people wish to bar her from entry because they know, from bitter and repeated experience, that once she is in the games begin. Yes I read somewhere that she stated she could be of use having inside knowledge of isis,a good get out of jail free card and pays well too.
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 26, 2023 12:39:14 GMT
You're the one making up all the assumptions as an excuse. So it is up to you to prove the HO has done the wrong thing. The burden of proof is on the accuser, remember "innocent until 'proven' guilty" that's British. She's been stripped of her citizenship. Not tried for her actions and behaviours in a court of law. She joined a terrorist organisation, and you believe she is the victim here. Lol
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Post by Handyman on Feb 26, 2023 13:12:50 GMT
The burden of proof is on the accuser, remember "innocent until 'proven' guilty" that's British. She's been stripped of her citizenship. Not tried for her actions and behaviours in a court of law. She joined a terrorist organisation, and you believe she is the victim here. Lol I don't know how anyone with just the one head can be so stupid as to want this lying terrorist bitch back into the UK is beyond my comprehension. She is lucky that she is still breathing , ISIS butchered thousands of men women and children that did not share their crazy religious beliefs, they even murdered UK citizens delivering aid to Syria to keep people alive and she was part of that willingly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2023 13:17:33 GMT
She doesn't have to come to the UK for trial in this day and AGE....I think her own actions clearly point out her own GUILT. It seems it's only karens like you who gives a shit about the slag. She was born here and has a right to be tried here. The highest court in the land has pronounced judgement, which is not good enough for you. Perhaps you should lobby the highest court, because we sure cannot help you come to terms with your perceived miscarriage of justice.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 26, 2023 16:22:48 GMT
You have been caught lying and are too cowardly to admit it ..and you are still posting bare faced lies on that thread. As fir your non point . You introduced a ‘ Canadian special forces operative’ or some other old bollocks into a question of whether she was kidnapped. It was a non point and once again you are too cowardly to admit it . Ill ask again . Do all lefties post a stream of non points or just you? ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/61439/threadDo you practice talking shite? Do you practice lying?
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Post by Steve on Feb 26, 2023 21:08:18 GMT
She was born here and has a right to be tried here. The highest court in the land has pronounced judgement, which is not good enough for you.Perhaps you should lobby the highest court, because we sure cannot help you come to terms with your perceived miscarriage of justice. No it hasn't on the citizenship issue
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 6:25:53 GMT
Are you saying that lawyers are breaking the law? No as the law has been made to suit their needs not that of the general population. Lefty lawyers make the laws??? The Tories have the power to change any law they want, why don't they?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 6:29:46 GMT
The burden of proof is on the accuser, remember "innocent until 'proven' guilty" that's British. She's been stripped of her citizenship. Not tried for her actions and behaviours in a court of law. She joined a terrorist organisation, and you believe she is the victim here. Lol You are making assumptions exactly the same as I am but I have the 'fact' that she has not been found guilty of any crime in a court of law, only by a baying mob. Mob rule does not work.😔
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 6:31:10 GMT
She's been stripped of her citizenship. Not tried for her actions and behaviours in a court of law. She joined a terrorist organisation, and you believe she is the victim here. Lol I don't know how anyone with just the one head can be so stupid as to want this lying terrorist bitch back into the UK is beyond my comprehension. She is lucky that she is still breathing , ISIS butchered thousands of men women and children that did not share their crazy religious beliefs, they even murdered UK citizens delivering aid to Syria to keep people alive and she was part of that willingly. You are making assumptions that she is guilty, I am saying a trial would find the evidence.
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 27, 2023 6:56:00 GMT
I don't know how anyone with just the one head can be so stupid as to want this lying terrorist bitch back into the UK is beyond my comprehension. She is lucky that she is still breathing , ISIS butchered thousands of men women and children that did not share their crazy religious beliefs, they even murdered UK citizens delivering aid to Syria to keep people alive and she was part of that willingly. You are making assumptions that she is guilty, I am saying a trial would find the evidence. She joined ISIS and for that she lost her citizenship, due to national security reasons. Between the years of 2006 an 2020, 426 people have had their British citizenship revoked - 175 of them for national security reasons. Begum is an addend into that number.
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