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Post by om15 on Feb 19, 2023 20:42:22 GMT
The campaign begins,
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Post by Vinny on Feb 19, 2023 23:56:13 GMT
At least Ash Regan knows what a woman is. I like ash regan , but i think robertson will be the new leader. Mad Angus, ex MP for Moray, defeated by Douglas Ross in 2017... Another mad bad loser. Ha! |
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Post by thomas on Feb 20, 2023 7:44:37 GMT
re read my earlier post where she says this....
are we reading this differently or did you miss it?
At some point the SNP are going to have to grow a pair and state that UDI is their policy. eh? UDI isnt the policy as far as im aware. Scotland is one half of the signatory of the treaty of union , an international treaty between two kingdoms. Either side can repeal said act at any time as we have discussed many many times before.
The snp want to do it by referendum up till now , and now regan and others are talking about using an election , the old method.
Despite how much you wish to portray it as a region breaking away , scotland is a country , and has the right to withdraw from the treaty of union. If enough scots vote to leave , then leave we will no matter what the british say.
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Post by thomas on Feb 20, 2023 7:45:02 GMT
and of the last three polls on the indy question ....
Unionists and doomsters in despair as two out of three new polls show Yes on almost 50% of the vote - and one of them is a POST-RESIGNATION poll
Should Scotland be an independent country? (Savanta / The Scotsman, 15th-17th February 2023)
Yes 49% (-)
No 51% (-)
That's still a no then Thomas, but I admire your tenacity. within margin of error . I will take that as a starting point any day of the week. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 20, 2023 8:15:45 GMT
I like ash regan , but i think robertson will be the new leader. Mad Angus, ex MP for Moray, defeated by Douglas Ross in 2017... Another mad bad loser. Ha! As i said i dont support robertson , but i think there will be an internal stitch up to give him the leadership. I hope of course im wrong. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 20, 2023 11:36:53 GMT
Mad Angus, ex MP for Moray, defeated by Douglas Ross in 2017... Another mad bad loser. Ha! As i said i dont support robertson , but i think there will be an internal stitch up to give him the leadership. I hope of course im wrong. Robertson is not standing |
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Post by borchester on Feb 20, 2023 11:41:00 GMT
That's still a no then Thomas, but I admire your tenacity. within margin of error . I will take that as a starting point any day of the week. Well, using the 10% rule, that gives the Uniomists a 7% lead. Still, as said before, it is the only game in town (is Sunak still PM?), so let us hope for a bit of excitement north of the border, there certainly isn't much south |
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Post by om15 on Feb 20, 2023 17:19:30 GMT
Matthew Lunn writes in the Telegraph today about the potential First Ministers, not very flatteringly though, it does seem that the SNP candidates have learnt nothing from the disaster of Sturgeons time in office, Ash Regan has said that Independence tops everything, the Yousaf bloke is going to challenge Westminster over the GRR bill even though 80% of Scots are appalled by it, and Kate Forbes has yet to tell us how she intends to prevent Scotland twinning with Venezuela. Whoever wins the current contest must change course on the economy or risk dooming Scotland to obscurity. There is mounting evidence that the anti-business policies of the SNP, aided by their Green allies, are crushing an economy that should be one of the most prosperous in the UK, and indeed in the whole of Europe.
Under Sturgeon’s dismal rule, the SNP used its tax powers to impose significantly higher rates on Scotland than the rest of the UK, partly by increasing the top rate (now 47pc compared with 45pc in England), but also by freezing thresholds so that higher taxes kick in at much lower levels.
There are already suggestions, not surprisingly, that we will see an exodus of high earners crossing the border as a result, with only public officials on six-figure salaries left to pay the higher rates.
Meanwhile, investment in North Sea oil and gas, once Scotland’s biggest industry, has been harassed out of existence. Six months of rent controls have created a crisis in the property market. Productivity north of the border has declined, compared to the rest of the UK, and so have real wages.
The Sturgeon-led statelet has only been kept afloat on a sea of spending. The pandemic might have been an exception, but since 2015 the Scottish budget deficit has averaged 9.3pc of GDP, compared with 3.1pc for the UK as whole. It is only sustainable because the catastrophic state of Scottish finances are disguised within the numbers for the UK as a whole. Left to itself, the bond markets would sink the country in the blink of an eye.
None of the SNP candidates seem to think there is anything wrong with this. In many ways, the front-runner Forbes is the worst of them. As finance minister in the Sturgeon administration since 2020, she had presided over punishing tax rises, as well as the chaotic mismanagement of the budget. She was ultimately in charge of fiscal policy, and can hardly evade responsibility.www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/02/20/snps-bone-headed-leadership-contenders-have-no-idea-how-fix/I think our Scottish correspondents would be well advised to get their money into an English Building Society, sell up and move south, it is looking very grim for them. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 21, 2023 8:04:16 GMT
As i said i dont support robertson , but i think there will be an internal stitch up to give him the leadership. I hope of course im wrong. Robertson is not standing Glad i got that one wrong. He isnt popular with the membership , but was originally the bookies favourite. Obviously tested the water and realised it wasnt going to happen so took the facesaving way out by using his kids as an excuse. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 21, 2023 8:10:56 GMT
within margin of error . I will take that as a starting point any day of the week. Well, using the 10% rule, that gives the Uniomists a 7% lead. Still, as said before, it is the only game in town (is Sunak still PM?), so let us hope for a bit of excitement north of the border, there certainly isn't much south Borkie you do talk some bollocks. What ten per cent rule is that? The one you made up on the allotment?
The trend over the last twenty years regarding scottish indy is going from roughly where the welsh are now , to around 50/50.
We have had plenty outliers along the way , like the recent ashcroft poll for the union , and the odd one here and there showing indy up as high as 57 %.
The margin of error is roughly around -2/3+ , and of course its reported many of the polling companies are still weighting to 2014 , which is fucking mental when you consider how the scottish voting base has changed over the last 9 years. Younger pro european and pro indy scots coming on board (independence is in the majority in every age group under 60 )older pro union voters passing away.
So the ten per cent rule is nothing more than a fantasy on a london allotment.  |
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Post by thomas on Feb 21, 2023 8:16:28 GMT
I think our Scottish correspondents would be well advised to get their money into an English Building Society, sell up and move south, it is looking very grim for them. The big problem with the scottish economy is of course englands brexit. The one part of the uk that traditionally did terrible economically , certainly all my life , was of course northern ireland.
Now northern ireland is the best performing part of the uk .I wonder why that is? Could it be anything to do with access to the single market and remaining under the ecj and having eu citizenship etc etc?
perish the thought om.
The majority of the levers of the scottish economy are controlled from london , not edinburgh . Thats why we need independence.
Northern Ireland economy has outperformed rest of UK, ONS figures show
Region’s third-quarter GDP only 0.3% below pre-pandemic levels, according to experimental new data
Northern Ireland economy outpacing post-Brexit Britain
Analysis finds unusual gains for Northern Ireland, the only UK region still able to trade goods barrier-free with the EU.
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Post by thomas on Feb 21, 2023 8:33:58 GMT
Further reports about englands glorious brexit .....
UK supermarkets. Brexshit Bonus.
Because farmers cannot afford to heat greenhouses and they no longer have EU migrants fruit pickers, your shelves are empty. The lorries from the EU face too much red tape to deliver to Brexit Britain.
Baroness Jones, "The only sensible thing now is to cut our losses and rejoin the EU.. I say that as somebody who voted for Brexit.. The gov is taking away parliament's sovereign powers of voting for or against laws.. We've reached the slash and burn stage of Brexit cultism."
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Post by Vinny on Feb 21, 2023 10:10:58 GMT
Well, using the 10% rule, that gives the Uniomists a 7% lead. Still, as said before, it is the only game in town (is Sunak still PM?), so let us hope for a bit of excitement north of the border, there certainly isn't much south Borkie you do talk some bollocks. What ten per cent rule is that? The one you made up on the allotment?
The trend over the last twenty years regarding scottish indy is going from roughly where the welsh are now , to around 50/50.
We have had plenty outliers along the way , like the recent ashcroft poll for the union , and the odd one here and there showing indy up as high as 57 %.
The margin of error is roughly around -2/3+ , and of course its reported many of the polling companies are still weighting to 2014 , which is fucking mental when you consider how the scottish voting base has changed over the last 9 years. Younger pro european and pro indy scots coming on board (independence is in the majority in every age group under 60 )older pro union voters passing away.
So the ten per cent rule is nothing more than a fantasy on a london allotment. ![]()  |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 21, 2023 10:15:28 GMT
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Post by om15 on Feb 21, 2023 10:41:14 GMT
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