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Post by morayloon on Feb 17, 2023 2:09:59 GMT
Nothing Neil has to say about the SNP is fair and the article would not have been in that rag if it had been fair. Two points: 1. he says of a referendum " there was every chance she could lose it". A negative spin because it can equally be said that there was every chance the SNP could win. With the Polls sitting pretty even it's all up for grabs. 2. he goes on about the polls "the SNP would trumpet the odd outlier that did show a small majority for independence. But mostly the polls stayed stubbornly against" That is untrue! eight of the last twelve polls showed YES in the lead. Some by quite substantial margins. The Ashcroft Poll which he uses to portray a large lead for NO can be seen, at the moment, to be as much of an outlier as the Ipsos Mori Poll for STV in early December 22 which had YES with a 12% lead after undecideds were left out. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Scottish_independence#Polls_using_the_2014_referendum_question www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2022-12/scotland-political-monitor-charts-december-2022.pdfHe goes on about life expectancy as if it were her fault that it was falling. Scot Gov has few economic powers with which to go their own way in tackling the issues surrounding this topic. If the SNP had full control of the Scottish economy there would be a strong case to blame the SNP but, Westminster holds the purse strings, Scotland is dependent on the money returned to us from the tax take our country gives to the UK Treasury. Additionally ScotGov has a very limited borrowing capability. Drug policy is a retained matter. The SNP tried to have it devolved to Holyrood so that Scot Gov could tackle the problem in its own way, The UK government refused to do the right thing. I agree that the attainment gap is a problematic issue. Having said that, STV reported that more youngsters from deprived backgrounds had applied for a university place in 2022 news.stv.tv/scotland/record-number-of-scottish-students-from-poorer-backgrounds-apply-for-university So, the issue is being tackled. He is searing in his condemnation of the lack of infrastructure building. In response, I would point him to the Aberdeen by pass; the dualling of the A9 (although that seems to have come to a standstill); the Borders railway; over 1,000 schools have been built or upgraded (including three secondary and one primary new builds in Moray alone); affordable housing is at a record level and council house building has taken off again; £325 million went to regenerate towns & neighbourhoods; millions have been earmarked for better infrastructure on the islands. So, he is wrong again. "The UK’s unionist majority should be quietly satisfied that a serious threat has been seen off." As with many of the metropolitan bletherartti he totally doesn't get Scottish Nationalism. The Independence cause will not suffer, though time will tell on that score. It was around before Sturgeon and will survive following her resignation. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 17, 2023 7:04:43 GMT
Nothing Neil has to say about the SNP is fair and the article would not have been in that rag if it had been fair. Two points: 1. he says of a referendum " there was every chance she could lose it". A negative spin because it can equally be said that there was every chance the SNP could win. With the Polls sitting pretty even it's all up for grabs. 2. he goes on about the polls "the SNP would trumpet the odd outlier that did show a small majority for independence. But mostly the polls stayed stubbornly against" That is untrue! eight of the last twelve polls showed YES in the lead. Some by quite substantial margins. The Ashcroft Poll which he uses to portray a large lead for NO can be seen, at the moment, to be as much of an outlier as the Ipsos Mori Poll for STV in early December 22 which had YES with a 12% lead after undecideds were left out. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Scottish_independence#Polls_using_the_2014_referendum_question www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2022-12/scotland-political-monitor-charts-december-2022.pdfHe goes on about life expectancy as if it were her fault that it was falling. Scot Gov has few economic powers with which to go their own way in tackling the issues surrounding this topic. If the SNP had full control of the Scottish economy there would be a strong case to blame the SNP but, Westminster holds the purse strings, Scotland is dependent on the money returned to us from the tax take our country gives to the UK Treasury. Additionally ScotGov has a very limited borrowing capability. Drug policy is a retained matter. The SNP tried to have it devolved to Holyrood so that Scot Gov could tackle the problem in its own way, The UK government refused to do the right thing. I agree that the attainment gap is a problematic issue. Having said that, STV reported that more youngsters from deprived backgrounds had applied for a university place in 2022 news.stv.tv/scotland/record-number-of-scottish-students-from-poorer-backgrounds-apply-for-university So, the issue is being tackled. He is searing in his condemnation of the lack of infrastructure building. In response, I would point him to the Aberdeen by pass; the dualling of the A9 (although that seems to have come to a standstill); the Borders railway; over 1,000 schools have been built or upgraded (including three secondary and one primary new builds in Moray alone); affordable housing is at a record level and council house building has taken off again; £325 million went to regenerate towns & neighbourhoods; millions have been earmarked for better infrastructure on the islands. So, he is wrong again. "The UK’s unionist majority should be quietly satisfied that a serious threat has been seen off." As with many of the metropolitan bletherartti he totally doesn't get Scottish Nationalism. The Independence cause will not suffer, though time will tell on that score. It was around before Sturgeon and will survive following her resignation. If the SNP weren’t hypocrites, they’d be holding an election Story by Tom Harris • Yesterday 11:51 I call it The Florida Effect. In 2003, as Westminster was convulsed by the drama of the challenge to Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, I was 3000 miles away enjoying the delights of DisneyWorld in Orlando. Yesterday morning, when I woke to the news that Nicola Sturgeon had announced her intention to resign as first minister of Scotland, I was once again temporarily resident in the Sunshine State, far from a keyboard and frustratingly distant from the centre of all the action.
Fat bastard blackford
With the scarce amount of hindsight that one news cycle gives you, it seems that Sturgeon’s announcement is, in every way, entirely different from the announcement of her predecessor, Alex Salmond. In 2014, the day after the independence referendum had failed to wrest Scotland from the bosom of the United Kingdom, Salmond was seen as a political giant brought low, a defiant and proud martyr to t
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Post by thomas on Feb 17, 2023 8:08:05 GMT
So while scotland appears to have been the guniea pig , have no doubt similar is coming to england and wales. The tories may have tried political opportunism , withdrawing support for GRR when it suited to try and knife sturgeon , thats a given. Have no doubt though , they are up to their necks in it , and as i said if as looks likely starmer gets in , an english welsh GRR bill looks likely. This isnt over by a long stretch. A very interesting and plausible take. You say the (say) conservatives are 'up to their necks in it', but what does this mean? what i meant margrathea is that the tories supported the GRR bill as a party , certainly under mays leadership , then when convenient as i said withdrew that support. Under the tory government , over 200 trans men from what i read were in english jails , before they quietly changed the rules during the furore over the scottish GRR bill.
As i said , many english tories including prominent ones such as may fabricant mordaunt etc have openly supported the GRR bill and trans rights in general.
I believe they will quietly step back , starmer will take over government in 16 months or so , and they will let him do the dirty work of implementing an english GRR bill ( as well as overturning brexit via BRINO) while he also takes the flack from the public and they quietly support both from the sidelines.
We will see what happens , but as i said earlier , this isnt over by a long shot. Im sure we will be revisiting this again.
As a journalist said , it used to be how much is the price of milk which showed how out of touch a politician is. Today , its can a woman have a penis.
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Post by thomas on Feb 17, 2023 8:15:26 GMT
So while scotland appears to have been the guniea pig , have no doubt similar is coming to england and wales. I doubt that - the response from the public to the idea and the subsequent fall in political supporter would suggest that no politician is going to want to open up this dogs dinner for many years. ok , we will have to see. If you look at what keir starmer has been saying historically , he supported trans reforms. When it was expedient to do so , the only part of scotland grr bill he was against was the age of 16.
You need to read between the lines as ever with the slimy and contemptable starmer , and of course lsiten to what scottish labour said about him on the issue.
Labours monica lennon for example said he supported the trans reforms , but then undermined labour in scotland over lowering the age from 18 to 16.
Wether the bill goes through at westmisnter or not is another matter, but have no doubt starmers labour will try in my opinion.
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Post by Vinny on Feb 17, 2023 9:41:28 GMT
The so called reforms would put men into women's prisons.
The issue is over.
Done.
It won't happen, ever again in this sovereign country.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 17, 2023 10:34:41 GMT
Swinney isn't intelligent enough to be a leader. His only claim to fame is being able to siphon off money from other depts to create a war chest of some 20 million pounds for another bloody referendum..........This top job has now become a poisoned chalice.........LOL Cats in sacks!!! Scotland's Deputy mayor of Scotland John Swinney rules himself out of SNP leadership race to replace NWee krankie Mr Swinney said that the SNP to consider carefully its next steps The race to replace Sturgeon will last less than six weeks, SNP has announced www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11761365/Scotlands-Deputy-Minister-John-Swinney-rules-SNP-race-replace-Sturgeon.html |
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Post by Orac on Feb 17, 2023 10:43:22 GMT
The so called reforms would put men into women's prisons. The issue is over. Done. It won't happen, ever again in this sovereign country. I wouldn't be so sure. If Labour get in, they will implement it regardless of it being on their manifesto or its popularity. Who then is going to repeal it? The Conservatives? This is how unwanted and disastrous legislation has been forced on an unwilling UK public for decades. The country badly needs a legislative bonfire, but both parties are careful not offer what is needed |
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Post by Orac on Feb 17, 2023 11:28:37 GMT
my view is that Sturgeon was supported in her position by a co-operative media and a cynical dichotomising that framed everything as 'sticking it to Westminster'. The Trans lunacy thing removed both tactics from her arsenal. At least she had the wit to realise she had run out of workable bullshit.
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Post by Vinny on Feb 17, 2023 12:18:53 GMT
Labour have now seen the effect of the Adam Graham "Isla Bryson" case of a male rapist being sent to a women's prison because he self identified as a "laydee".
A cock in a frock is still a cock.
Men are not women.
Labour are on thin ice on this topic and they know that no matter the feelings of their fanatical member Eddie Izzard, it would doom them.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 17, 2023 13:41:20 GMT
Shut the bloody place. That would be the best course of action for this devolved administration. It has done nothing for Scotland and has caused more trouble and lost more money than it's worth. ...Just get rid of the whole shebang..........The Scottish Nasty Party demanded that when Bojo fell on his sword that there was a mandate for a general election. Now Our Glorious First Monster has fell on his / her sword, let there be a Scottish election, just so the sensible up there can sort the wheat from the Chaff...........The UK needs to stop pandering to the THEY THEM brigade who are so narcissistic that they think they are multiple people. SNP at war as party blocks Wee krankies critics who quit over her transgender law from rejoining to vote for her successor with Deputy mayor of Scotland saying the idea is 'ludicrous' ahead of six-week leadership battle SNP agreed a six-week leadership campaign to choose the next mayor of Scotland Only people who were members when she quit on February 15 allowed to vote www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11762465/SNP-fires-starting-gun-race-choose-successor-Nicola-Sturgeon.html |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 17, 2023 14:54:33 GMT
Agree. Abolish devolution, bring back direct rule and bring in universal British laws for the whole UK.
Let's all be united again. And introduce PR to make elections better.
A few reform MPs would be a good thing for everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2023 16:26:55 GMT
Agree. Abolish devolution, bring back direct rule and bring in universal British laws for the whole UK. Let's all be united again. And introduce PR to make elections better. A few reform MPs would be a good thing for everyone. Yep. Devolution is not working in Northern Ireland, one side or the other has hissy fits and won't play the game. Wales is a Labour fiefdom and as such has contributed to a terrible NHS, has closed down road building, suppressed it's people in Covid. Scotland probably has the most successful devolution, but they have always had their own criminal law and courts system, so they had a head start. Blair's experiment has had massive costs and few advantages, I fear. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 17, 2023 20:48:06 GMT
Just spotted this which I thought was pretty good, and relevant. Nigel Farage said Nicola Sturgeon “went too far with her radical trans agenda” after the First Minister of Scotland resigned this morning. Speaking on GB News, Mr Farage described Ms Sturgeon as “the most unpleasant person I have ever met in politics”.
www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1735344/nicola-sturgeon-radical-trans-agenda-nigel-farageLOL, say it as it is Nige, good man. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 17, 2023 20:54:26 GMT
Susan Wojcicki (CEO of YouTube) has just resigned
That's three in a row
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 17, 2023 21:16:21 GMT
Susan Wojcicki (CEO of YouTube) has just resigned That's three in a row Three in a row? Jimmy Krankie, the CEO of YouTube, who else? As an aside, anyone going to have a shot at pronouncing, Wojcicki... |
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