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Post by Toreador on Feb 16, 2023 7:05:13 GMT
Yes, it appears to be the case that realism is overtaking religion. Nevertheless there are many people who have an emotional need to believe in the existence of God. I suspect the same goodness in mankind that created the goodness in god will create a good side of society wherever religion loses control of society. Well what happens when that happens is people lose their bearing and will often go mad. It seems to be happening on a vast scale around Western societies. A lot of people seem to be killing themselves and others. Are you sure this realism is a good thing? 16th century Book of Martyrs will help you assess deaths from religious mania as will the history of the Huguenots and Oliver Cromwell..
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 16, 2023 8:05:40 GMT
What an evil organisation it has become. The bible says it is a grave sin to misrepresent the bible. There is only one god and that god forbids homosexuality and hypocrisy as well. He does? Please don't say you're relying on that old Testament that calls for killing men, women and little boys and abusing girls because frankly that is full of shit. Yes we all know that old chestnut about the other Abrahammuc Faiths being stuck in the seventh century etc but hang on, didn’t St Paul The Mysogynist have something to say about it too.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 16, 2023 12:01:37 GMT
Well what happens when that happens is people lose their bearing and will often go mad. It seems to be happening on a vast scale around Western societies. A lot of people seem to be killing themselves and others. Are you sure this realism is a good thing? 16th century Book of Martyrs will help you assess deaths from religious mania as will the history of the Huguenots and Oliver Cromwell.. You have a very biased view of it.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 16, 2023 12:21:48 GMT
What an evil organisation it has become. The bible says it is a grave sin to misrepresent the bible. There is only one god and that god forbids homosexuality and hypocrisy as well. He does? Please don't say you're relying on that old Testament that calls for killing men, women and little boys and abusing girls because frankly that is full of shit. I do not know what you mean by abuse. it is a very vague and subjective term generally used when someone does not have a coherent argument to offer. This is the way the bible advises one figures out if something is good or bad.
I see in the news one got murdered. That was not a good outcome.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 16, 2023 12:33:17 GMT
16th century Book of Martyrs will help you assess deaths from religious mania as will the history of the Huguenots and Oliver Cromwell.. You have a very biased view of it. Perhaps you should blame the authors, I never wrote the books.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 16, 2023 13:54:32 GMT
You have a very biased view of it. Perhaps you should blame the authors, I never wrote the books. I meant you have nothing good to say about it. Your Marxist moral replacement will serve you poorly.
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Post by see2 on Feb 16, 2023 14:06:08 GMT
Yes, it appears to be the case that realism is overtaking religion. Nevertheless there are many people who have an emotional need to believe in the existence of God. I suspect the same goodness in mankind that created the goodness in god will create a good side of society wherever religion loses control of society. Well what happens when that happens is people lose their bearing and will often go mad. It seems to be happening on a vast scale around Western societies. A lot of people seem to be killing themselves and others. Are you sure this realism is a good thing? So confusion reigns ? The natural instincts for humans is guided towards survival. That is how the brain is basically designed to function. The safest place to be is probably through friendships and showing concern for others as well as oneself.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 16, 2023 14:24:56 GMT
Well what happens when that happens is people lose their bearing and will often go mad. It seems to be happening on a vast scale around Western societies. A lot of people seem to be killing themselves and others. Are you sure this realism is a good thing? So confusion reigns The natural instincts for humans is guided towards survival. That is how the brain is basically designed to function. The safest place to be is probably through friendships and showing concern for others as well as oneself. The last sentence came from the bible. You may think it didn't and you may tell me it is just your opinion, but your culture is Christian, so you inherited those views. What if Christianity had never existed? I think it would be similar to the issue of science and why it took so long to discover it. You take a lot for granted.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 16, 2023 15:07:47 GMT
Perhaps you should blame the authors, I never wrote the books. I meant you have nothing good to say about it. Your Marxist moral replacement will serve you poorly. Maybe that's because it's a load of shite. Moral Marxist replacement....lol, another load of shite.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 16, 2023 15:44:45 GMT
I meant you have nothing good to say about it. Your Marxist moral replacement will serve you poorly. Maybe that's because it's a load of shite. Moral Marxist replacement....lol, another load of shite. Have you ever studied Britain's pre-Christian history? One thing they did was get involved in human sacrifice. The so-called Stonehenge Man is thought to have been a sacrificial offering. Perhaps also while you are at it you may like to study what the Aztecs did.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 16, 2023 16:00:15 GMT
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 16, 2023 16:11:38 GMT
You are cherry picking all the bad things associated with it. I detect an anti-Christian view which suggests you would like to get rid of it, which coincides with what the state is trying to do. As I have pointed out elsewhere there is this understanding of original sin. Man is imperfect and that includes Christians. Indeed chances are many of these wronguns were imposters, using the church as a cover because it is known to be innocent. How better to destroy it. I've seen what happens to these who think like you do and reject it. They still need to believe in something, but that something can be very rotten indeed, and can lead to death.
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Post by vlk on Feb 16, 2023 16:13:57 GMT
When you can marry then you can also divorce and financially destroy your spouse.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 16, 2023 16:20:14 GMT
You are cherry picking all the bad things associated with it. I detect an anti-Christian view which suggests you would like to get rid of it, which coincides with what the state is trying to do. As I have pointed out elsewhere there is this understanding of original sin. Man is imperfect and that includes Christians. Indeed chances are many of these wronguns were imposters, using the church as a cover because it is known to be innocent. How better to destroy it. I've seen what happens to these who think like you do and reject it. They still need to believe in something, but that something can be very rotten indeed, and can lead to death. I'm an atheist. Throughout much of Christianity and other religions, people never had the chance be overtly unbelievers, it was follow God or be persecuted, even executed. I would like this country to be officially secular.....and much of the above says you do write some shite.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 16, 2023 17:00:44 GMT
You are cherry picking all the bad things associated with it. I detect an anti-Christian view which suggests you would like to get rid of it, which coincides with what the state is trying to do. As I have pointed out elsewhere there is this understanding of original sin. Man is imperfect and that includes Christians. Indeed chances are many of these wronguns were imposters, using the church as a cover because it is known to be innocent. How better to destroy it. I've seen what happens to these who think like you do and reject it. They still need to believe in something, but that something can be very rotten indeed, and can lead to death. I'm an atheist. Throughout much of Christianity and other religions, people never had the chance be overtly unbelievers, it was follow God or be persecuted, even executed. I would like this country to be officially secular.....and much of the above says you do write some shite. I thought so. You are anti-Christian and believe in atheism.
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