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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 7, 2023 19:54:22 GMT
nonnie, stop pussyfooting about and get to the point, lol. Well, see2 is like an American Democrat. If dipshit can deny any of my points with links and facts, then he/she/it/fluid/whatever should present them. Baseless comments never wash with me. Btw, where's the sociopath off the forum that got closed. I can't remember his/her members name. A sociopath from the other forum, well there were a few lefties, although I have no idea which one you may be referring to. Xrayspecs?
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Post by see2 on Feb 7, 2023 19:57:33 GMT
When your post starts, and it's middle, and your end is a pile of shit, you had no credibility and not only foolish, but retarded. If you want to try and counter any of my facts, do point them out and I will drill you into the ground like a tent peg. So sort your shit out and try again. Listen kid, I don't suffer fools. Your post was shit. You are shit. Your mother shat you out. If you want to debate, then stop speaking the language of slurry shit. Try facts and links. If you can't, stop your fucking ***** shit. If you want to discuss Thatcher, Blair, Brown, Corbyn et. al. Up your game because unless you know where to look for economic facts etc.. I will fuck you over. Says the most misinformed foolish poster of unadulterated garbage on the forum. You have proved numerous times that you have no idea of the long term economic and social damage done by Thatcher, all you have done is to collect misleading Tory propaganda and biased opinions and think you are dealing with reality. If you are going to state facts try looking at both sides of the coin. Otherwise you will continue to make yourself look a fool.
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Post by see2 on Feb 7, 2023 20:17:02 GMT
I have already countered your so called "facts" and proved you have nothing to offer other than lies, insinuated lies and pure bullshit Tory nonsense. Pretending to be clever by putting any old shit words together is further destruction of what little credibility you might have had. You've encountered fuck all. Here is a copy of my post shoveling your shit posting into the bin where it belongs. Try reading and understanding it, then you will be better informed than you are right now. nonnie2 Avatar Feb 1, 2023 at 7:03pm nonnie2 said:
see2 Avatar Feb 1, 2023 at 9:55am see2 said:
You must be unaware of the excessive economic and social damage done by right-wing Thatcher, whether you are or not, you are clearly in no position position to comment. New Labour was a moderate open minded objective government that was a breath of fresh air and commonsense. Who's first job in office was to set in motion the process of repairing much of the damage that still existed from the Thatcher years. nonnie2 You need to do a Labour, erase the past, New Labour. So with the Tories, New Conservatives. How's your brain power? Everything the Tories did wrong before Blair and Brown, why didn't Blair and Brown reverse it? Now don't forget cupcake, UK manufacturing declined quicker and to a greater extent under Blair than Thatcher. So explain that Einstein. Please supply links to your pending bullshit. I will get some popcorn and await your stupid reply. See2 Try looking at the reality sweetie. Under Thatcher: 1. Up to 4 million unemployed because she closed down thousands of businesses. NL inherited over two million unemployed and reduced that to 1.5m.
2. NL inherited a rise to 3 million children living in relative poverty, reduced that to around 2.3m although there was a slight increase after the 2008 meltdown.
3. Thatcher introduced the Grant Maintained school system which saw the majority of state schools reduced to a poverty level. NL scrapped that system and heavily invested in State Education.
4. She reduced the value of Teacher's pay causing a high level of early retirement of experienced Teachers. NL set financial enticements to try to get them back, plus investments into Teacher training.
5. Thatcher undermined the NHS causing huge waiting lists and waiting times for hospital appointments and ditto for painful relief but non-urgent operations. NL sent people into the Private Sector and some to France for these operations, paid for by the NHS, in order to bring the numbers down to manageable levels. Plus they invested in the training of new doctors and nurses to meet the shortages of both. (And there are more of such examples).
6. No government can tell investors where to invest their money. During the period under NL, money was more productive for investors to invest in the financial sector. The turn away from investing in the UK industry came when Thatcher did so much damage to the engineering industry and settled for building Japanese cars which she invited into the UK. The Japanese had their eye on access to the EU markets which they did not previously have.
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Post by nonnie2 on Feb 10, 2023 20:34:26 GMT
Well, see2 is like an American Democrat. If dipshit can deny any of my points with links and facts, then he/she/it/fluid/whatever should present them. Baseless comments never wash with me. Btw, where's the sociopath off the forum that got closed. I can't remember his/her members name. A sociopath from the other forum, well there were a few lefties, although I have no idea which one you may be referring to. Xrayspecs? Was it Rebirth?
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Post by see2 on Feb 10, 2023 20:52:15 GMT
A sociopath from the other forum, well there were a few lefties, although I have no idea which one you may be referring to. Xrayspecs? Was it Rebirth? Sociopath: __"a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behaviour."__ Nonnie2 is happy telling lies and using insults.
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Post by sheepy on Feb 10, 2023 21:11:33 GMT
Sociopath: __"a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behaviour."__ Nonnie2 is happy telling lies and using insults. While your paltry opinion matters because?
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Post by jonksy on Feb 10, 2023 21:19:34 GMT
Sociopath: __"a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behaviour."__ Nonnie2 is happy telling lies and using insults. While your paltry opinion matters because?Because they are legitimate....So what's your excuse?
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Post by sheepy on Feb 10, 2023 21:22:02 GMT
While your paltry opinion matters because? Because they are legitimate....So what's your excuse? I don't need one as it happens, but then I am not judge and jury.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 10, 2023 21:25:03 GMT
Because they are legitimate....So what's your excuse? I don't need one as it happens, but then I am not judge and jury. But you think you are...
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Post by sheepy on Feb 10, 2023 21:26:40 GMT
I don't need one as it happens, but then I am not judge and jury. But you think you are... No you said but you think you are. So I guess you are the judge then.
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Post by sheepy on Feb 10, 2023 21:28:56 GMT
Who do you think has had the most baleful long term negative impact upon the UK, its economy, its social structure and its society? Many have contributed towards us being the basket case that we are, but my vote goes to Thatcher who started the rot in so many ways. Blair by three fields and a dyke. Thatcher purely lives in the heads of Labourites rent free. If she did anything wrong, why hasn't any PM reversed it, they've had nearly 32 years to do so. So simply put, Labourites need to let go about Thatcher and move on. Blair with his illegal Iraq war, and PFI in the NHS. He simply mortgaged our children's future with the new hospitals. So the NHS is saddled with paying millions upon millions to rent the new hospitals, with ridiculous crap food contracts that they can't get out of. Then if you look at the manufacturing figures, manufacturing eroded to greater extent and quicker under his watch than anyone else. The UK went from being a well known engineering country to a one that's promotes wet flannels in film and media. Manufacturing declined 5% under Thatcher, 8% under Blair. Staunch Labourites promote Labour as the party for the people, how foolish can they be!! We're a nation where many are stupid enough to champion the junk from China and wanting to be part of the EU dictatorship for their goods instead of getting ourselves to the forefront of design and manufacturing. I agree complete psychopath who spawns them.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 10, 2023 21:32:12 GMT
No you said but you think you are. So I guess you are the judge then.Nope just a realist with open eyes.
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Post by sheepy on Feb 10, 2023 21:34:07 GMT
No you said but you think you are. So I guess you are the judge then.Nope just a realist with open eyes. Through the bottom of a bottle perhaps?
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Post by jonksy on Feb 10, 2023 21:35:13 GMT
Nope just a realist with open eyes. Through the bottom of a bottle perhaps? Nope perfectly sober...
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Post by sheepy on Feb 10, 2023 21:40:52 GMT
Through the bottom of a bottle perhaps? Nope perfectly sober... So do you think a man like Blair who would have you back in the EU in a flash and to hell with democracy makes someone else a sociopath for pointing out what a snake he is?
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