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Post by see2 on Jan 15, 2023 13:35:41 GMT
There will always be Remainer filth desperate to betray the UK to the EU, but I dare say that we will survive "Remainer filth"? do you eat dirt for dinner? The ONLY excuse for closer relations with the EU is if economics make it clear that closer relations would be economically beneficial for the PEOPLE of the UK. Just as it was when the UK joined the EEC in in 1973.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 15, 2023 13:39:35 GMT
Because the EU is France and Germany - the rest, as someone said, are just the trimmings.
The PIIGS and the former Eastern bloc nations bring very little to the EU table. The UK did and the EU needs the UK's contribution.
They also don't want a powerful competitor, unconstrained by their rules, on the doorstep.
In short, they need us more than we need them.
But the gullible keep lapping up these stories.
Germany couldn't conqueror Europe via two wars, it's trying to do so via the EU parliament. The UK left based on sovereignty, if anyone wants to whine about finances and pocket money, that's their problem. Since leaving, these whinging fucking arseholes have never stopped bleating on. If they love the EU that much, can they not just fuck off and emigrate, I'm sure enough crowd funding would happen to get these moaning bastards a one way ticket. Unfortunately EU residence is just one of many rights we lost when throwing the baby out with the bath water. As many Brexit voters living in the costa del sol have found out the hard way.
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Post by om15 on Jan 15, 2023 13:49:11 GMT
The UK has acceded to the second and final phase of accession to the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP). This is a free trading bloc of 11 countries in the Indo-Pacific region: Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam.
It is free trade, not political subservience to another Parliament, we don't have to pay 21 Billion pounds to be a member, nor do we have to endure the CPTPP dictating how many immigrants we must have, how we must measure our own food and drink and have to follow an infinite number of regulations and laws that we didn't pass in our own Parliament.
That is an improvement on what we already had I think, don't you?
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Post by om15 on Jan 15, 2023 13:53:51 GMT
No it isn't. My daughter and her husband have sold up their business in England, sold their house in London and have bought a place on a Mediterranean Island to take up residence in without any problem at all. They merely had to fill in a couple of documents and be open about their income and tax affairs.
I suspect those in Magaluf that are experiencing problems have not done either.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 15, 2023 13:54:35 GMT
Judging by our new free trade deals with Australia and New Zealand, no, not really.
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Post by om15 on Jan 15, 2023 14:01:21 GMT
Why is that, does our free trade deal with Australia and New Zealand incorporate requirements for the Australian Government to dictate motorcycle exhaust emissions in Shropshire?
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Post by Toreador on Jan 15, 2023 14:06:39 GMT
No it isn't. My daughter and her husband have sold up their business in England, sold their house in London and have bought a place on a Mediterranean Island to take up residence in without any problem at all. They merely had to fill in a couple of documents and be open about their income and tax affairs. I suspect those in Magaluf that are experiencing problems have not done either. I had several friends in France and they're still there. If you fulfill the conditions you can stay.
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Post by om15 on Jan 15, 2023 14:10:46 GMT
Of course you can, the only people erecting barriers are British Remainiacs, everyone else is just getting on with business as usual.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 15, 2023 14:17:31 GMT
No it isn't. My daughter and her husband have sold up their business in England, sold their house in London and have bought a place on a Mediterranean Island to take up residence in without any problem at all. They merely had to fill in a couple of documents and be open about their income and tax affairs. I suspect those in Magaluf that are experiencing problems have not done either. It is now a privilege where before it was a right. Also reciprocal healthcare agreements are no longer in place. Many people have had to return to the UK because they can't afford to pay for their healthcare. They also can't afford to buy property since their cheap home in the sun is now difficult to sell and virtually worthless. I bet many of them, now living on welfare in rented accommodation with wine habits they can no longer afford, are regretting voting to leave.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 15, 2023 14:21:25 GMT
,,,,They also can't afford to buy property since their cheap home in the sun is now difficult to sell and virtually worthless... Why would that be?
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Post by om15 on Jan 15, 2023 14:21:33 GMT
You can't subject an entire Country to foreign rule simply to cater for the needs of a few people who haven't the wit or energy to sort their lives out properly. If they can't afford the modest health charges in Spain or France then they should have worked harder at school.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 15, 2023 14:26:15 GMT
You can't subject an entire Country to foreign rule simply to cater for the needs of a few people who haven't the wit or energy to sort their lives out properly. If they can't afford the modest health charges in Spain or France then they should have worked harder at school.
Well quite so. The UK should be run for the benefit of people who live here, not people who've chosen to live somewhere else.
"Won't somebody think of the poor ex-pats?"
Well no, thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 16:04:12 GMT
So it's back to the fabled "four freedoms" do you think? And there will be no borders for trade. Why can't we have the EEC? Without the EU parliament and all that goes with it. Democracy is why. Any large organization has to be able to make decisions and make rules and take responsibility for decisions and rules made. Thanks, that word salad explains everything.
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Post by bancroft on Jan 15, 2023 21:02:36 GMT
This is BRINO land
Get the EU court of human rights out of the UK legal system.
Review all the EU laws no longer applicable or requiring legislation and then lets see how we get the economy moving post COV-ID.
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Post by see2 on Jan 15, 2023 21:22:57 GMT
The UK has acceded to the second and final phase of accession to the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP). This is a free trading bloc of 11 countries in the Indo-Pacific region: Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam. It is free trade, not political subservience to another Parliament, we don't have to pay 21 Billion pounds to be a member, nor do we have to endure the CPTPP dictating how many immigrants we must have, how we must measure our own food and drink and have to follow an infinite number of regulations and laws that we didn't pass in our own Parliament. That is an improvement on what we already had I think, don't you? No! What your post proves is that you have no understanding of the benefits of shared agreements within the EU, agreements that left the vast majority of decisions on running the UK to the UK parliament. Do you think the Germans or the French are any less German or French just because they are EU member countries?
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