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Post by vlk on Jan 14, 2023 19:26:39 GMT
Brexit good or bad depends where your standpoint is but Brexit is permanent.
Enjoy or suffer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 20:05:25 GMT
If I were a betting man, I would now begin to lay out the odds as to when ( not if ) we are back in the Single Market or somehow aligned with, or part of the European Economic Area. Some people cannot see further than the end of their noses, and refuse to accept what is over the horizon, but to not acknowledge that it is in your best interests to work closely, and in alignement, with your neighbours, who are also your most important trading partners, is sheer obstinacy. I'm sure then that whatever Party is advocating this will have a landslide of support at the next election. I am familiar with Starmer. He will never advocate this because he wants to be elected. He will deny any intention of doing this if asked. But if and when he gets in he will do it after all. Because that's the kind of politician he is |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 20:16:04 GMT
About as bloody mythical as your supposed poll that the majority in the UK want to rejoin the EUSSR. What is inevitable is that the remainiac nutters will still be talking this bollocks until they have gone tits up. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 20:20:26 GMT
Why do the EU keep planting these stories? Vengeance and desperation mate. How dare the golden goose fly from the nest which caused them to loose treasure Island. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 14, 2023 20:20:57 GMT
Interesting that you think the Telegraph are remainiac nutters! 😂
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 20:22:53 GMT
If I were a betting man, I would now begin to lay out the odds as to when ( not if ) we are back in the Single Market or somehow aligned with, or part of the European Economic Area. Some people cannot see further than the end of their noses, and refuse to accept what is over the horizon, but to not acknowledge that it is in your best interests to work closely, and in alignement, with your neighbours, who are also your most important trading partners, is sheer obstinacy. Thankyou. Yet another cleaning bill for my coffee I gobbed all over the kitchen. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 14, 2023 20:25:02 GMT
We wont go back in - once the Brexit boys starting talking about the WEF closing down farms in the EU that will be it, too many Brits still like their meat.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 20:25:34 GMT
Interesting that you think the Telegraph are remainiac nutters! 😂 Interesting how you keep beleiving this total bullshit. |
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Post by nonnie2 on Jan 14, 2023 20:57:08 GMT
Why do the EU keep planting these stories?
Because the EU is France and Germany - the rest, as someone said, are just the trimmings.
The PIIGS and the former Eastern bloc nations bring very little to the EU table. The UK did and the EU needs the UK's contribution.
They also don't want a powerful competitor, unconstrained by their rules, on the doorstep.
In short, they need us more than we need them.
But the gullible keep lapping up these stories.
Germany couldn't conqueror Europe via two wars, it's trying to do so via the EU parliament. The UK left based on sovereignty, if anyone wants to whine about finances and pocket money, that's their problem. Since leaving, these whinging fucking arseholes have never stopped bleating on. If they love the EU that much, can they not just fuck off and emigrate, I'm sure enough crowd funding would happen to get these moaning bastards a one way ticket. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 14, 2023 21:12:19 GMT
As I've said previously, I'm coming to the conclusion that remoaning is some kind of mental illness. Seven years later and they're still trying to tell us that the sky's falling in.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 21:17:30 GMT
As I've said previously, I'm coming to the conclusion that remoaning is some kind of mental illness. Seven years later and they're still trying to tell us that the sky's falling in. No sane person would see some form of ambiguity in a simple binary choice. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 14, 2023 21:25:14 GMT
We are gradually being gaslighted by the usual suspects to believe that our time as a member of the EU was a period of milk and honey without any discernible problems . Apparently we were lured away from this paradise by lying ,fascist, right wingers who baited lying , fascist and stupid Brexiters. No, I wouldn't go that far, but the blue skies and fair sailing that seemed to dominate the feelings and opinions of those who voted to leave, don't appear to have come about. And rather sadly they haven't even appeared on the horizon so far. If the future economy of the UK needs some closer relations with the EU, then just do it, and learn from the lessons that have created the present situation. On the other hand who knows what tomorrow might bring  |
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Post by see2 on Jan 14, 2023 21:29:31 GMT
As I've said previously, I'm coming to the conclusion that remoaning is some kind of mental illness. Seven years later and they're still trying to tell us that the sky's falling in. Well Brexshit has given a lot of people plenty to moan about. Personally I am like you and many others in that I do not know whether or not Brexit will be good or bad for the UK in the long run. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 14, 2023 21:33:21 GMT
Because the EU is France and Germany - the rest, as someone said, are just the trimmings.
The PIIGS and the former Eastern bloc nations bring very little to the EU table. The UK did and the EU needs the UK's contribution.
They also don't want a powerful competitor, unconstrained by their rules, on the doorstep.
In short, they need us more than we need them.
But the gullible keep lapping up these stories.
Germany couldn't conqueror Europe via two wars, it's trying to do so via the EU parliament. The UK left based on sovereignty, if anyone wants to whine about finances and pocket money, that's their problem. Since leaving, these whinging fucking arseholes have never stopped bleating on. If they love the EU that much, can they not just fuck off and emigrate, I'm sure enough crowd funding would happen to get these moaning bastards a one way ticket. It wouldn't take much more Brexshit like your post to find men in white coats knocking on your door. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 15, 2023 10:22:59 GMT
I don't think people are losing faith in Brexit, they are losing faith in the Conservatives to make Brexit a success, which is different. The Establishment (Civil Service, lefties in media, education and politics) are determined that Brexit will not be a success. There is a difference between "working closely and in alignment with" and being under their Parliamentary control and paying through the nose for the pleasure. Out best interests is building towards Pacific Trade, which is what we are doing. The UK always had trade in the Pacific, thanks to EU trade agreements. How is joining another multinational alliance going to improve what we already have? |
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