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Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2023 14:37:20 GMT
Anyone who were normal would take that as good advice. So what’s your excuse for not doing so? The many hundreds of ways Brexit has reamed us from behind without a single drop of lube to take away the pain. Cry me a river why don’t you. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2023 14:40:56 GMT
I asked you what benefits you have won and what progress you who voted to leave, have gained. I am still waiting for an answer. All they have left is blue passports and a warm glow from owning the Libs. My glow couldn’t be warmer hearing the remaniacs shedding their tears |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 23, 2023 14:43:45 GMT
The many hundreds of ways Brexit has reamed us from behind without a single drop of lube to take away the pain. Cry me a river why don’t you. You already have a river, it's called De Nile. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2023 14:44:08 GMT
2023 and the wankers are still crying about a democratic referendum that took place in 2016…..LOL
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Post by Vinny on Jan 23, 2023 14:46:33 GMT
Said it before, I'll say it again, instead of trying to take ownership of the situation and sit in the driving seat controlling how we left, remoaners tried throwing themselves in front of the unstoppable tank, which ran them over.
Brexit created possibilities you people chose not to take advantage of.
Instead of pushing for a how we leave referendum, they pushed for a stop leave referendum.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2023 14:51:17 GMT
Cry me a river why don’t you. You already have a river, it's called De Nile. How droll….You are the one in denial. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 23, 2023 14:59:39 GMT
I couldn't care less about the EU. I do however work with Interpol and Europol on a daily basis, which is how I know that you're a clueless liar.
So do run along Kim, we've been down this road before and it didn't end well for you.
I didn't mention Interpol and if you have anything to do with Frontex it is on an extremely superficial manner. Because it doesn't include the UK to any meaningful extent. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 23, 2023 15:01:09 GMT
No, but Interpol is something that makes us safer.
And we haven't left it.
Europol basically duplicates its job.
Europol wasn't necessary, because Interpol exists.
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 23, 2023 15:05:49 GMT
But we didn't pay for collective scientific and medical advances, our economy grew due to EU trade deals, we were protected from criminal immigration by crossborder policing and by Frontex, our young people benefitted from study abroad, no one knows how much we gained by being on a roup which carefully protects import standards... Perhaps you would like to explain on what stats this "net payer" is based on. Stats used in the House of Commons. The UK’s contribution to the EU budgetFrom your link: The UK’s net contribution shouldn’t be confused with an assessment of the overall economic benefit, or cost, to the UK of EU membership. The net contribution simply looks at the direct flows of contributions to the EU Budget from the UK and spending, or receipts, from the EU to the UK. It doesn’t, for instance, consider benefits to UK businesses from being in the EU’s single market. Several bodies have attempted an economic cost-benefit analysis of the UK’s EU membership, some of which are discussed in section 6 of the Library’s briefing In brief: UK-EU economic relations. Perhaps you would like to follow your own link and recognise the economic benefits the UK enjoyed from being in the single market and being able to trade on most favourable terms with around 80 countries. Then tell us if 9 billion membership fees weren't good value. Estimates range from 4 to 8% GDP and after two years, is coming down on the side of the larger number. The GDP of the UK last year was just over 3 trillion US dollars or about 2 trillion sterling. You do the maths. Since the UK traded only on EU Treaty terms, what loss would there be if the UK hadn't traded via the EU? And why do you think the UK rolled over all those trade deals if the benefits werent unimportant? From the silly few deals the UK has done, the UK would be a third world country by now. 9 billion a year to support a GDP of nearly 2 trillion a year? Seems a good deal to me. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 23, 2023 15:17:17 GMT
I couldn't care less about the EU. I do however work with Interpol and Europol on a daily basis, which is how I know that you're a clueless liar.
So do run along Kim, we've been down this road before and it didn't end well for you.
I didn't mention Interpol and if you have anything to do with Frontex it is on an extremely superficial manner. Because it doesn't include the UK to any meaningful extent.
You mentioned Europol which is just a sub branch of Interpol. And Frontex is largely irrelevant to the UK.
Both of which you'd know if you weren't making stuff up as you go along.  |
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Post by borchester on Jan 23, 2023 15:28:38 GMT
Just more standard issue remainer bollocks... Which bit are you saying wasn't true? 🤔 None of it, it is just that we are discussing different matters.
Brexiters want freedom from Brussels while Remainers are obsessed with money and would sell the UK down the river for 10% off a carnet on the Paris Metro.
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 23, 2023 15:32:13 GMT
I didn't mention Interpol and if you have anything to do with Frontex it is on an extremely superficial manner. Because it doesn't include the UK to any meaningful extent.
You mentioned Europol which is just a sub branch of Interpol. And Frontex is largely irrelevant to the UK.
Both of which you'd know if you weren't making stuff up as you go along. I didn't make it up. I posted links. And you are not being honest. Is UK part of Frontex? Frontex's Management Board is composed of representatives of the heads of the border agencies of all the EU Member States that are signatories of the Schengen acquis. The Management Board also includes representatives from the United Kingdom and Ireland, as well as two members of the European Commission. frontex.europa.eu › faq › ke... Key Facts - Frontex - European Union You fell for that completely. The UK isn't part of Europol but is still within Frontex as part of the settlement. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. And certainly not in daily contact with both. Is the UK part of Europol? As a third country, the UK has lost access to the Schengen Information System (SIS II) and will not be a member of Europol. However, the TCA does enable UK liaison officers to be present in Europol's headquarters to facilitate cross-border cooperation.Feb 7, 2022 lordslibrary.parliament.uk › ... Beyond Brexit: policing, law enforcement and security |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 23, 2023 15:33:37 GMT
Which bit are you saying wasn't true? 🤔 None of it, it is just that we are discussing different matters.
Brexiters want freedom from Brussels while Remainers are obsessed with money and would sell the UK down the river for 10% off a carnet on the Paris Metro.
No. That is the Brexit Tory party. As we have seen over and over including yet another bag of sleaze. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 23, 2023 15:35:24 GMT
We don't need to be part of Europol, we're part of INTERPOL.
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Post by see2 on Jan 23, 2023 15:36:01 GMT
All they have left is blue passports and a warm glow from owning the Libs. My glow couldn’t be warmer hearing the remaniacs shedding their tears And mine when reading the nonsense avodance excuses by Brexshiters. |
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