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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 23, 2023 9:34:44 GMT
...we were protected from criminal immigration by crossborder policing and by Frontex... LOL!  |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 23, 2023 10:08:51 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Jan 23, 2023 10:16:06 GMT
We now benefit from independent trade deals Oracle, stop blubbing.
And the EU facilitates illegal immigration so don't tell fibs.
As for cross border policing, ever heard of interpol ?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 23, 2023 10:29:40 GMT
I couldn't care less about the EU. I do however work with Interpol and Europol on a daily basis, which is how I know that you're a clueless liar.
So do run along Kim, we've been down this road before and it didn't end well for you.
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 23, 2023 11:33:55 GMT
Well, You've made your bus now you've got to lie on it. A thing of terrifying beauty. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 23, 2023 11:35:51 GMT
WE paid for the loans and grants - it was our own money coming back to us.  But we didn't pay for collective scientific and medical advances, our economy grew due to EU trade deals, we were protected from criminal immigration by crossborder policing and by Frontex, our young people benefitted from study abroad, no one knows how much we gained by being on a roup which carefully protects import standards... Perhaps you would like to explain on what stats this "net payer" is based on. Stats used in the House of Commons. The UK’s contribution to the EU budget |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 23, 2023 11:47:09 GMT
I asked you what benefits you have won and what progress you who voted to leave, have gained. I am still waiting for an answer. All they have left is blue passports and a warm glow from owning the Libs. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 23, 2023 11:47:12 GMT
Owning the libs and Blue passports. I'm glad you think it was worth it. You're in the minority now though.I'll take that from a remainer. A poll response of 1709 people. Your lot also said you'd win the Brexit referendum with those kind of polls. It was the silent majority who taught you the lesson, not that it looks as though you've learned anything from that, that placing such weight and authority in them should be at most taken with a pinch of salt. It was too many ill informed and or the misled that voted for Brexit for a country with too many self created weaknesses to sort out. Meaning that the UK was too week to enter into something it had no idea of how difficult it could be. And with no set plans articulated for the future. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 23, 2023 12:04:34 GMT
I'll take that from a remainer. A poll response of 1709 people. Your lot also said you'd win the Brexit referendum with those kind of polls. It was the silent majority who taught you the lesson, not that it looks as though you've learned anything from that, that placing such weight and authority in them should be at most taken with a pinch of salt. It was too many ill informed and or the misled that voted for Brexit for a country with too many self created weaknesses to sort out. Meaning that the UK was too week to enter into something it had no idea of how difficult it could be. And with no set plans articulated for the future. The accusation before the referendum was that it was the old fogies who were the main protagenists for leaving, you know, the ones who'd livedf through our joining the EEC only to see it morph into the odious EU. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 23, 2023 14:02:38 GMT
It was too many ill informed and or the misled that voted for Brexit for a country with too many self created weaknesses to sort out. Meaning that the UK was too week to enter into something it had no idea of how difficult it could be. And with no set plans articulated for the future. The accusation before the referendum was that it was the old fogies who were the main protagenists for leaving, you know, the ones who'd livedf through our joining the EEC only to see it morph into the odious EU. Bent bananas and cucumbers, and an EU run by unelected people were amongst the silly ones I heard for leaving. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2023 14:04:45 GMT
Maybe you should open your eyes and your mind rather than being a dormant vegetable..... Well that makes three tries at asking you to give examples of what you claim is true. In return I have had no examples but personal abuse so I have to assume that you don't have any examples of the benefits of Brexit. Maybe you could use your superior intelligence and explain on what information/statistics/facts the UK was estimated to be a net contributer. For example how much trade through EU agreements did the UK profit by if it hadn't been in the EU? How much did Joe Bloggs benefit the UK because he went to a European country and learned the language and made important friendships which he used when back in the UK? How much tax did the Chancellor take from those who lived abroad and rented out their British home? When Leavers were telling lies they said they would lower corporation tax and everyone would come running. Instead "The corporation tax is currently 19 percent, but an earlier UK budget has scheduled it to increase to 25 percent, effective April 1, 2023, for firms with incomes above £250,000." One of the higher in Europe. taxfoundation.org/corporate-tax-rates-europe-2022/Now perhaps you can explain how this is going to encourage growth in the UK as promised when so many countries in the EU have lower rates and lower customs duties and better infrastructure. So can you now tell me some benefits of Brexit?It rattled you and your ilks cage. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2023 14:05:39 GMT
...we were protected from criminal immigration by crossborder policing and by Frontex... LOL! You would have to pay dearly for comedy like this mate…LOL |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 23, 2023 14:12:14 GMT
Well that makes three tries at asking you to give examples of what you claim is true. In return I have had no examples but personal abuse so I have to assume that you don't have any examples of the benefits of Brexit. Maybe you could use your superior intelligence and explain on what information/statistics/facts the UK was estimated to be a net contributer. For example how much trade through EU agreements did the UK profit by if it hadn't been in the EU? How much did Joe Bloggs benefit the UK because he went to a European country and learned the language and made important friendships which he used when back in the UK? How much tax did the Chancellor take from those who lived abroad and rented out their British home? When Leavers were telling lies they said they would lower corporation tax and everyone would come running. Instead "The corporation tax is currently 19 percent, but an earlier UK budget has scheduled it to increase to 25 percent, effective April 1, 2023, for firms with incomes above £250,000." One of the higher in Europe. taxfoundation.org/corporate-tax-rates-europe-2022/Now perhaps you can explain how this is going to encourage growth in the UK as promised when so many countries in the EU have lower rates and lower customs duties and better infrastructure. So can you now tell me some benefits of Brexit?It rattled you and your ilks cage. There we have it. ''Owned the Libs and blue passports''. They simply can't name any concrete post Brexit improvements. It's like Trump supporters all over again. ''beating Hillary and liberals' tears''. The dumbing down of British politics has sunk to US levels. ''you lost, get over it'' is now the official Brexit slogan. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 23, 2023 14:15:36 GMT
It rattled you and your ilks cage. There we have it. ''Owned the Libs and blue passports''. They simply can't name any concrete post Brexit improvements. It's like Trump supporters all over again. ''beating Hillary and liberals' tears''. The dumbing down of British politics has sunk to US levels. ''you lost, get over it'' is now the official Brexit slogan.Anyone who were normal would take that as good advice. So what’s your excuse for not doing so? |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 23, 2023 14:25:48 GMT
There we have it. ''Owned the Libs and blue passports''. They simply can't name any concrete post Brexit improvements. It's like Trump supporters all over again. ''beating Hillary and liberals' tears''. The dumbing down of British politics has sunk to US levels. ''you lost, get over it'' is now the official Brexit slogan.Anyone who were normal would take that as good advice. So what’s your excuse for not doing so? The many hundreds of ways Brexit has reamed us from behind without a single drop of lube to take away the pain. |
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