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Post by sandypine on Jan 13, 2023 20:28:36 GMT
Interesting discussion on GB News right now. Laurence Fox is interviewing a couple of people who can reliably be described as experts, two doctors, one English one Jewish. They said there are serious concerns over covid vaccines that are being hidden from the public and that Andrew Bridgen's comments should be investigated. It can only be a matter of time. I think Josh Guetzkow was a criminalogist and anthropologist or similar not a doctor. Bridgen said the vaccine rollout was the biggest crime against humanity since the holocaust, not equal to the holocaust or comparable to it. So far they, whoever they are, are having major success in silencing those who ask pertinent questions. If we believe in our democracy this can only be totally unacceptable. |
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Post by patman post on Jan 13, 2023 20:35:59 GMT
No. Anyone allergic to any substance is perfectly entitled to reject it, and its use on them. And they should be able to state publicly they have this allergy and warn others to look out for allergies in themselves.
What I class as nutters are those who have no expertise to but who go around trying to persuade others that what’s being proposed by the best “medical” brains in the country (and world) that vaccines are harmful for everyone — a few people may have reacted badly to some Covid vaccines, but that’s no excuse to operate in Henny-Penny mode and rush around in panic forecasting the sky is falling in on everyone…
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Post by sandypine on Jan 13, 2023 20:54:19 GMT
No. Anyone allergic to any substance is perfectly entitled to reject it, and its use on them. And they should be able to state publicly they have this allergy and warn others to look out for allergies in themselves. What I class as nutters are those who have no expertise to but who go around trying to persuade others that what’s being proposed by the best “medical” brains in the country (and world) that vaccines are harmful for everyone — a few people may have reacted badly to some Covid vaccines, but that’s no excuse to operate in Henny-Penny mode and rush around in panic forecasting the sky is falling in on everyone… I think some of the best medical brains in the country, and the world, are much more hesitant as regards using the vaccine and routinely highlight their concerns despite voluble opposition and sometimes job loss and cancelling. Mostly they seem to say on balance only the vulnerable should be vaccinated as the risks to the healthy of Covid are so very small and the risks of the vaccination, for them, are greater. Other points of risk have also been raised. If one debilitates or kills healthy people for little gain then that is a problem. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 13, 2023 21:49:04 GMT
No. Anyone allergic to any substance is perfectly entitled to reject it, and its use on them. And they should be able to state publicly they have this allergy and warn others to look out for allergies in themselves. What I class as nutters are those who have no expertise to but who go around trying to persuade others that what’s being proposed by the best “medical” brains in the country (and world) that vaccines are harmful for everyone — a few people may have reacted badly to some Covid vaccines, but that’s no excuse to operate in Henny-Penny mode and rush around in panic forecasting the sky is falling in on everyone… Five years ago I suffered kidney failure and was hospitalised for six days of intensive care. Cause....Trimethoprim, the prescribed antibiotic for my urinary infection. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 13, 2023 23:05:21 GMT
No. Anyone allergic to any substance is perfectly entitled to reject it, and its use on them. And they should be able to state publicly they have this allergy and warn others to look out for allergies in themselves. What I class as nutters are those who have no expertise to but who go around trying to persuade others that what’s being proposed by the best “medical” brains in the country (and world) that vaccines are harmful for everyone — a few people may have reacted badly to some Covid vaccines, but that’s no excuse to operate in Henny-Penny mode and rush around in panic forecasting the sky is falling in on everyone… Five years ago I suffered kidney failure and was hospitalised for six days of intensive care. Cause....Trimethoprim, the prescribed antibiotic for my urinary infection. Sorry to hear about your problems, I hope you have recovered and are well. I have been very lucky in not having to take any regular medication until around 12 months ago when a doctor told me it was time for me to have an MOT (laugh) and then advised I take blood thinners, I felt insulted at first because I had no symptoms of any problems, but then thought well I am getting on a bit so it might be just as well to take them. You are clearly still active mentally so stay that way, 'keep on posting'  |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 13, 2023 23:16:09 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 7:04:16 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 7:09:02 GMT
Presenter Maajid Nawaz leaves LBC after backlash to controversial tweets LBC presenter Maajid Nawaz has left the broadcaster “with immediate effect” after pressure was put on both internally and externally over tweets he posted about Covid-19 vaccinations. Nawaz, who first joined the station in September 2016 and presented on Saturdays and Sundays from 1pm to 4pm, said it was not his decision to leave. pressgazette.co.uk/news/presenter-maajid-nawaz-leaves-lbc-after-backlash-to-controversial-tweets/ |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 14, 2023 7:56:20 GMT
Presenter Maajid Nawaz leaves LBC after backlash to controversial tweets LBC presenter Maajid Nawaz has left the broadcaster “with immediate effect” after pressure was put on both internally and externally over tweets he posted about Covid-19 vaccinations. Nawaz, who first joined the station in September 2016 and presented on Saturdays and Sundays from 1pm to 4pm, said it was not his decision to leave. pressgazette.co.uk/news/presenter-maajid-nawaz-leaves-lbc-after-backlash-to-controversial-tweets/He left months ago. I remember his repeated suggestions against vaccines and his disappearance. I have to say as a listener I got tired of his strident lecturing. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 14, 2023 8:01:43 GMT
I doubt there is any medication which doesn't adversely affect someone. That is why any general medical questionnaire asks if you have any allergies. Even my optician asked me that when I went to correct a prescription.
That doesn't mean the vast number of people not affected should be denied a life saving vaccine.
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Post by steppenwolf on Jan 14, 2023 8:07:33 GMT
150 Million doses of vaccine injected into people in the UK 60 Deaths Need anyone say any more ? We don't know how many deaths have been caused by the vaccines because it's quite difficult to know if deaths from strokes/heart problems are caused by the vaccines. Several doctors have voiced concerns that the mRNA vaccines are unsafe but their views have been dismissed. It's always the same when vaccines are blamed for deaths. Remember the doctor who got struck off for saying that the MMR vaccine potentially caused autism? The medical profession closed ranks and denied it. The same happened with AIDS, which was probably originally caused by injecting vaccines attenuated by chimpanzee kidneys - chimpanzees suffering from SIV. despite overwhelming evidence that this is the case. Yet the medical profession deny this. From what I've heard so far I won't be getting any more mRNA Covid vaccinations or boosters. Basically the vaccines don't work anyway - they just reduce the symptoms (which are already no worse than a bad cold). Also the fact that they have to keep on being given to people because they rapidly lose effectiveness means that people are exposed to higher risk - and it's also costing the NHS a fortune both financially and in terms of resources. It's time to re-evaluate these vaccines IMO. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 8:40:55 GMT
Presenter Maajid Nawaz leaves LBC after backlash to controversial tweets LBC presenter Maajid Nawaz has left the broadcaster “with immediate effect” after pressure was put on both internally and externally over tweets he posted about Covid-19 vaccinations. Nawaz, who first joined the station in September 2016 and presented on Saturdays and Sundays from 1pm to 4pm, said it was not his decision to leave. pressgazette.co.uk/news/presenter-maajid-nawaz-leaves-lbc-after-backlash-to-controversial-tweets/He left months ago. I remember his repeated suggestions against vaccines and his disappearance. I have to say as a listener I got tired of his strident lecturing. Many of us got sick and tired of being told we had to have a jab. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 8:45:07 GMT
I doubt there is any medication which doesn't adversely affect someone. That is why any general medical questionnaire asks if you have any allergies. Even my optician asked me that when I went to correct a prescription. That doesn't mean the vast number of people not affected should be denied a life saving vaccine. I agree, I myself am allergic to Paracetomol. But when a vaccine is rushed out as in the case of covid it will take years and years before the full story comes out and the effect to some could take years to raise it's ugly head. There is one thing for sure the number of sudden deaths in most western countries has risen dramatically in the last couple of years. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 14, 2023 8:56:07 GMT
There are many factors causing death that change over time.
One is that people are living longer. The have complicated health issues. For example my husband has had diabetes for years (and this is growing issue). He also has a weak heart valve but the surgeons can't operate because of his other issues. He has recently contracted a blood infection which won't respond well to antibiotics because of the diabetes and it is affecting orher organs. This multiple issue problem is caused by better medical know-how which also can cure other people.
Oddly, Increased deaths have been the result of BETTER health care. Yes they would have died anyway but we are talking about the last two years if you want to blame the vaccine, so the number of "natural deaths" is swept up in the number of deaths caused by the vaccine.
What I mean is that causes of death are hugely complex and not simply the result of one thing which also happens to be a political issue.
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 14, 2023 8:57:25 GMT
He left months ago. I remember his repeated suggestions against vaccines and his disappearance. I have to say as a listener I got tired of his strident lecturing. Many of us got sick and tired of being told we had to have a jab. You were never told you had to have it. But the government has to do its best to protect the majority of the population. |
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