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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 13, 2023 7:21:40 GMT
A stupid law that will just lead to more good people leaving the NHS. At last someone grasps what I've been saying for ages. I just didn't think that it would be you, Zany. Well done.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 13, 2023 16:06:18 GMT
Will the law result in a significant number of nurses leaving the NHS ? I doubt it .
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2023 17:08:29 GMT
Will the law result in a significant number of nurses leaving the NHS ? I doubt it . I don't
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2023 17:11:34 GMT
Will the law result in a significant number of nurses leaving the NHS ? I doubt it . I don'tNone won't if they know their stuff.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 13, 2023 17:12:52 GMT
Will the law result in a significant number of nurses leaving the NHS ? I doubt it . I don't So what jobs are available outside of the NHS that matches both the nurses skill set and remuneration?
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2023 17:17:11 GMT
None won't if they know their stuff. Is that supposed to be a double negative?
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2023 17:18:13 GMT
So what jobs are available outside of the NHS that matches both the nurses skill set and remuneration? That doesn't seem to have stopped thousands leaving already.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 13, 2023 17:22:23 GMT
So what jobs are available outside of the NHS that matches both the nurses skill set and remuneration? That doesn't seem to have stopped thousands leaving already. So you haven’t clue then? How many fully qualified nurses have left because of pay since we left the EU?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 17:24:03 GMT
So what jobs are available outside of the NHS that matches both the nurses skill set and remuneration? Private healthcare, the Australian health system seems to be attracting quite a few, medical research, even working for the DWP as a disability claims assessor. Most western health care systems pay a lot more than ours with better terms and conditions. They could get a job in pharmacy or in the pharmaceutical industry, they could become an agency nurse. There are enough alternatives that nurses are leaving faster than they can be recruited.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 13, 2023 17:28:10 GMT
So what jobs are available outside of the NHS that matches both the nurses skill set and remuneration? Private healthcare, the Australian health system seems to be attracting quite a few, medical research, even working for the DWP as a disability claims assessor. Most western health care systems pay a lot more than ours with better terms and conditions. They could get a job in pharmacy or in the pharmaceutical industry, they could become an agency nurse. There are enough alternatives that nurses are leaving faster than they can be recruited. Do the UK qualifications carry across to Australia ? How does the nurses skill set apply to medical research? What jobs in pharmaceuticals require a nurses skill set ? You think that just claiming it makes it true ?
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2023 17:28:46 GMT
That doesn't seem to have stopped thousands leaving already. So you haven’t clue then? How many fully qualified nurses have left because of pay since we left the EU? How could anyone possibly know how many have left just because of pay. They leave for a host of reasons.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 13, 2023 17:33:11 GMT
So you haven’t clue then? How many fully qualified nurses have left because of pay since we left the EU? How could anyone possibly know how many have left just because of pay. They leave for a host of reasons. They are striking because they want more money.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 17:33:40 GMT
I do, and it isn't the Tories, lol Oh, I forgot to make allowances for your somewhat limited movements inside your little political box Actually, in my time I have voted Labour, Lib Dem, Green, and TUSC. Were I living in Scotland or Wales I would happily have voted Plaid or the SNP. But I have never and would never vote Tory. You did. So your arrogant preaching to me about political boxes and political integrity is just so much horse shit. Go bury your head in a bucket of it. Trying to make a virtue out of voting Tory whilst claiming to be centre left just exposes your moral dishonesty. Am going to regret posting that because you will witter on repeatedly ad nauseum in response no doubt, using many words to say nothing worth reading. So fire away.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 13, 2023 17:52:30 GMT
How could anyone possibly know how many have left just because of pay. They leave for a host of reasons. They are striking because they want more money. IMO They want more money to compensate for how awful the job is. All jobs are a mixture of pay and working conditions.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 13, 2023 17:54:43 GMT
They are striking because they want more money. IMO They want more money to compensate for how awful the job is. All jobs are a mixture of pay and working conditions. They want more money. Working conditions are not part of their claim. All jobs are a mixture of a lot of things .
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