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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 16:31:47 GMT
So nothing at all in regards to momentum policies, just a load of whatever Blairite MPs happen to think of momentum, lol. This is a laughable response and most unconvincing. And to compare momentum with Militant is utterly risible. That some centrist MPs do so is not evidence of it being true, more evidence of their own biased agenda. As for fearing the possibility of infiltration from left wing groups, fear that something might happen is not proof of it happening, lol. And when it comes to bullying, locally one prominent left winger was chased around his car by an angry Blairite who then screamed in his face. Another was actually physically assaulted by a Blairite councillor. Both incidents were reported via the disciplinary protest. Of course, run by Blairites as it is no action was taken. Lower level bullying by Blairites was widespread. Their contempt was also actually seen in the way most of them couldn't be bothered to show up for party meetings but preferred plotting together in small groups. They only showed up in meetings in numbers when important votes were taking place to try and outvote the left, then contemptuously walked out in mid meeting as soon as the votes were finished. The left can teach those Blairite bastards nothing when it comes to bullying in my experience. In your experience as you attempt to bully with --"those Blairite bastards"-- LOL Well those with enough sense who voted for NL showed the wankers on the left how to get into office and to stay in office longer than all the attempts by said wankers could manage between 1951 and 2020. Such a ridiculous record that only the subnormal wouldn't be able to understand that they are getting it wrong. Mind you such people do ignore / deny the good done by NL and do so because NL's successes makes the wankers on the left look so stupid. You fail to get how times have changed. It is not 1997 anymore. Beyond that the above tripe is barely worth a response. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 12, 2023 16:58:07 GMT
I honestly wonder why anyone bothers responding to see2's fatuous nonsense. He's the only poster on my ignore list since his posts consist solely of peurile comments directed at anyone he disagrees with, while offering no valid counterpoint. He's an absolute waste of screen space. And a waste of frigging oxygen mate. That's no way to post about Squeezy  |
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Post by see2 on Jan 12, 2023 17:00:51 GMT
I will go where the policies are fair and responsible, why don't you? I do, and it isn't the Tories, lol Oh, I forgot to make allowances for your somewhat limited movements inside your little political box  |
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Post by see2 on Jan 12, 2023 17:08:18 GMT
In your experience as you attempt to bully with --"those Blairite bastards"-- LOL Well those with enough sense who voted for NL showed the wankers on the left how to get into office and to stay in office longer than all the attempts by said wankers could manage between 1951 and 2020. Such a ridiculous record that only the subnormal wouldn't be able to understand that they are getting it wrong. Mind you such people do ignore / deny the good done by NL and do so because NL's successes makes the wankers on the left look so stupid. You fail to get how times have changed. It is not 1997 anymore. Beyond that the above tripe is barely worth a response. And it certainly isn't 1945 any more that's for sure LOL You may be totally biased but you are not totally stupid, so I know the above is likely to have hit home somewhere in your thinking brain, even if not in your emotional system. Reality usually does, sooner or later, it just might be later in your case. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 17:56:24 GMT
I do, and it isn't the Tories, lol Oh, I forgot to make allowances for your somewhat limited movements inside your little political box Well as a socialist of principle I will never move so far as to vote Tory. No genuine progressive ever would. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 18:03:52 GMT
You fail to get how times have changed. It is not 1997 anymore. Beyond that the above tripe is barely worth a response. And it certainly isn't 1945 any more that's for sure LOL You may be totally biased but you are not totally stupid, so I know the above is likely to have hit home somewhere in your thinking brain, even if not in your emotional system. Reality usually does, sooner or later, it just might be later in your case. Great aspects or reality have certainly failed to sink in in your brain. And if you think any of the shite you posted hit home as any kind of revelation you are deluding yourself with your own rubbish, as only the arrogant can. The reality that most of our 2017 policies were highly popular when polled, for example, fails utterly to sink in. Nor the fact that most of these policies were designed to address problems of today like zero hours contracts, heavy tuition fees, and extortionate rents, not the problems of 1945. And you are totally incapable of getting your head around the reality that we lost in spite of those policies for other reasons and not because of them. As you will no doubt be along shortly to demonstrate |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 12, 2023 18:45:54 GMT
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Post by Toreador on Jan 12, 2023 18:46:48 GMT
see2 is an OK guy who never fails to trigger posters without even trying.
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Post by see2 on Jan 12, 2023 20:02:01 GMT
Oh, I forgot to make allowances for your somewhat limited movements inside your little political box Well as a socialist of principle I will never move so far as to vote Tory. No genuine progressive ever would. But one cannot be progressive when stuck in left wing political box. You may well be a Socialist but you are stuck in a capitalist country. NL were probably the best route to gradually progress towards socialism. i.e. Proving that the country can become more Social Minded without throwing the baby out with the bath water. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 20:52:17 GMT
Well as a socialist of principle I will never move so far as to vote Tory. No genuine progressive ever would. But one cannot be progressive when stuck in left wing political box. You may well be a Socialist but you are stuck in a capitalist country. NL were probably the best route to gradually progress towards socialism. i.e. Proving that the country can become more Social Minded without throwing the baby out with the bath water. Look, enough already. Neither of us is going to change each other's minds, especially when your tactics include repeated misrepresentations, this time that socialists cannot be progressives. Only one of us has ever voted Tory, matey, and it's not me. I will not be voting Labour either. If you think the Tories were ever known for their progressive politics you are delusional. But these constant exchanges between us, getting neither of us anywhere, are growing most tiresome and I am getting close to just telling you to fuck off before ignoring you. I might become more of a drive by poster where you are concerned and only say something in response to you as and when I want to before disappearing again. I am sick and tired of these long tedious exchanges and everyone else probably is too. I am sick to my back teeth of these constant notifications from you for the same old shit all the time. I reckon I get as many notifications from you as I do from everyone else put together. Do me a favour and leave me alone and go find someone else to stalk with your shit. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 12, 2023 21:41:15 GMT
But one cannot be progressive when stuck in left wing political box. You may well be a Socialist but you are stuck in a capitalist country. NL were probably the best route to gradually progress towards socialism. i.e. Proving that the country can become more Social Minded without throwing the baby out with the bath water. Look, enough already. Neither of us is going to change each other's minds, especially when your tactics include repeated misrepresentations, this time that socialists cannot be progressives. Here you go again, I never said that Socialists cannot be progressive. I used the term " one cannot be progressive" as in being stuck in a lefty box. IIRC Gordon Brown has referred to his own Socialist callings before today. He is the sort of lefty influenced individual that was not only progressive but who was actually productive for working people and those at the bottom of the financial pile. In other words he didn't cut off his nose to spite his face, he did what he could positively do for people, by using his loaf. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 12, 2023 22:03:37 GMT
Stammer went on strike when he took over the Labour leadership. Labour opposes life-saving law to curb strikes: Stammer tries to scupper vital Tory bill as ambulance drivers walk out TODAY and people are told not to call 999 unless it's 'life or limb' Opposition MPs attack legislation designed to guarantee minimum safety levels The law would cover disputes like today’s walkout by ambulance drivers It comes as hospitals are ‘braced for another day of significant disruption' linkA stupid law that will just lead to more good people leaving the NHS. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 12, 2023 22:24:19 GMT
Look, enough already. Neither of us is going to change each other's minds, especially when your tactics include repeated misrepresentations, this time that socialists cannot be progressives. Here you go again, I never said that Socialists cannot be progressive. I used the term " one cannot be progressive" as in being stuck in a lefty box. IIRC Gordon Brown has referred to his own Socialist callings before today. He is the sort of lefty influenced individual that was not only progressive but who was actually productive for working people and those at the bottom of the financial pile. In other words he didn't cut off his nose to spite his face, he did what he could positively do for people, by using his loaf.He was obviously bread for it. |
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Post by sword on Jan 12, 2023 22:31:40 GMT
Stammer went on strike when he took over the Labour leadership. Labour opposes life-saving law to curb strikes: Stammer tries to scupper vital Tory bill as ambulance drivers walk out TODAY and people are told not to call 999 unless it's 'life or limb' Opposition MPs attack legislation designed to guarantee minimum safety levels The law would cover disputes like today’s walkout by ambulance drivers It comes as hospitals are ‘braced for another day of significant disruption' linkLife saving law my arse,the Tory Government are causing deaths its all on their watch years of running the NHS down. |
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Post by sword on Jan 12, 2023 22:35:36 GMT
Can’t see that Starmer and/or the Labour Party have much responsibility for the current strike issues in the NHS or elsewhere, they’re not in government… They are supporting the idle bastards. Idle, are you feeling ok? |
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