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Post by Pacifico on Jan 3, 2023 7:35:09 GMT
No shit Sherlock - now if only someone had been telling you that for the past 2 years....  |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jan 3, 2023 8:18:22 GMT
Statement of the obvious. But Varadkar knows perfectly well that the NI protocol was MEANT to cause problems. The idea was to split off NI from Great Britain and lead to a united Ireland.
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Post by thomas on Jan 3, 2023 9:02:09 GMT
Statement of the obvious. But Varadkar knows perfectly well that the NI protocol was MEANT to cause problems. The idea was to split off NI from Great Britain and lead to a united Ireland. the protocol wont be the cause of a united ireland. Irrespective of the wrongs of partitioning a country the british ruled as one , with only two of the six counties having a large unionist majority back in the twenties , the fact of the mater is the 6 counties have been moving slowly but surely towards a nationalist majority since the creation of the sectarian apartheid state.
We saw that in 2017 alone , when stormont for the first time in nearly hundred years lost its unionist majority.
The majority in northern ireland once again voted to stay in the EU , and johnson could have refused to agree to the protocol , but didnt so here we are.
You have to accept brexit has caused massive divisions within not just your own country england , but within the uk multi national state. Im not sure how this can be healed anytime soon , but dragging northern ireland out with scotland against the majority will will do nothing more than hasten the end of the union.
In the last election to stormont , and i appreciate they arent sitting due to the DUP throwing rattles out prams because o neil would be first minister , the majority voted for pro protocol candidates in a devolved election.
Are you suggesting the democratic view of the northern irish majority be overtruned anti democratically to appease a minority in northern ireland , or the few people who care in your own country?
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Post by thomas on Jan 3, 2023 9:08:01 GMT
No shit Sherlock - now if only someone had been telling you that for the past 2 years.... pacifico , varadkar isnt popular in ireland . He is merely sitting mouthing off he is going to fix all the problems he caused during his previous time in power , and is panicking about the rise of sinn fein under mary lou.
I personally dont think the protocol is going anywhere .
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 3, 2023 9:48:18 GMT
Statement of the obvious. But Varadkar knows perfectly well that the NI protocol was MEANT to cause problems. The idea was to split off NI from Great Britain and lead to a united Ireland. the protocol wont be the cause of a united ireland. Irrespective of the wrongs of partitioning a country the british ruled as one , with only two of the six counties having a large unionist majority back in the twenties , the fact of the mater is the 6 counties have been moving slowly but surely towards a nationalist majority since the creation of the sectarian apartheid state.
We saw that in 2017 alone , when stormont for the first time in nearly hundred years lost its unionist majority.
The majority in northern ireland once again voted to stay in the EU , and johnson could have refused to agree to the protocol , but didnt so here we are.
You have to accept brexit has caused massive divisions within not just your own country england , but within the uk multi national state. Im not sure how this can be healed anytime soon , but dragging northern ireland out with scotland against the majority will will do nothing more than hasten the end of the union.
In the last election to stormont , and i appreciate they arent sitting due to the DUP throwing rattles out prams because o neil would be first minister , the majority voted for pro protocol candidates in a devolved election.
Are you suggesting the democratic view of the northern irish majority be overtruned anti democratically to appease a minority in northern ireland , or the few people who care in your own country?
Doesn't look as though your opinion on the UK/NI/RoI correlates to the foregone conclusion you had hoped. :quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/APOFI7W4Z5E7XPS3ZOM54C452Q.png) |
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Post by thomas on Jan 3, 2023 9:57:01 GMT
the protocol wont be the cause of a united ireland. Irrespective of the wrongs of partitioning a country the british ruled as one , with only two of the six counties having a large unionist majority back in the twenties , the fact of the mater is the 6 counties have been moving slowly but surely towards a nationalist majority since the creation of the sectarian apartheid state.
We saw that in 2017 alone , when stormont for the first time in nearly hundred years lost its unionist majority.
The majority in northern ireland once again voted to stay in the EU , and johnson could have refused to agree to the protocol , but didnt so here we are.
You have to accept brexit has caused massive divisions within not just your own country england , but within the uk multi national state. Im not sure how this can be healed anytime soon , but dragging northern ireland out with scotland against the majority will will do nothing more than hasten the end of the union.
In the last election to stormont , and i appreciate they arent sitting due to the DUP throwing rattles out prams because o neil would be first minister , the majority voted for pro protocol candidates in a devolved election.
Are you suggesting the democratic view of the northern irish majority be overtruned anti democratically to appease a minority in northern ireland , or the few people who care in your own country?
Doesn't look as though your opinion on the UK/NI/RoI correlates to the foregone conclusion you had hoped. could you provide a link to your polls please?
Last one i saw had this....
Lucidtalk are generally good on the irish politics and constitutional issue , and from what they post you can see the direction of travel buccy.
Anyhow no spoke to you for a while. How did wee engerlund get on at the world cup ? Did they win? 
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 3, 2023 9:59:26 GMT
Statement of the obvious. But Varadkar knows perfectly well that the NI protocol was MEANT to cause problems. The idea was to split off NI from Great Britain and lead to a united Ireland. That's right. 'N.Ireland was the price of Brexit'. Varadkar is an emotional amateur who got caught up in a bit of Irish triumphalism with Barnier by his side. At the time getting one over the British was what the Protocol and EU rhetoric was all about. He was Brussel's useful idiot. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 3, 2023 10:03:07 GMT
Doesn't look as though your opinion on the UK/NI/RoI correlates to the foregone conclusion you had hoped. could you provide a link to your polls please?
Last one i saw had this....
Lucidtalk are generally good on the irish politics and constitutional issue , and from what they post you can see the direction of travel buccy.
Anyhow no spoke to you for a while. How did wee engerlund get on at the world cup ? Did they win?
Hi Tommy McRobinson, I got the link on this forum from your mate SteveK: ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/810/blow-ireland-unification?page=1&scrollTo=29448England did okay Tommy. They made it to the WC. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 3, 2023 10:11:00 GMT
could you provide a link to your polls please?
Last one i saw had this....
Lucidtalk are generally good on the irish politics and constitutional issue , and from what they post you can see the direction of travel buccy.
Anyhow no spoke to you for a while. How did wee engerlund get on at the world cup ? Did they win?
Hi Tommy McRobinson, I got the link on this forum from your mate SteveK: ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/810/blow-ireland-unification?page=1&scrollTo=29448England did okay Tommy. They made it to the WC. another inglorious defeat you mean . ? Thanks for the link buvvy , i havent seen you on here for a while , thought you must have been in mourning at the three lions limp wristed showing.
Must ask my liberal friend steve where he got his link from .
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Post by thomas on Jan 3, 2023 10:11:58 GMT
Statement of the obvious. But Varadkar knows perfectly well that the NI protocol was MEANT to cause problems. The idea was to split off NI from Great Britain and lead to a united Ireland. That's right. 'N.Ireland was the price of Brexit'. Varadkar is an emotional amateur who got caught up in a bit of Irish triumphalism with Barnier by his side. At the time getting one over the British was what the Protocol and EU rhetoric was all about. He was Brussel's useful idiot. but the english hero boris johnson caved into him and the EU. ?Or are you telling me wee ireland rag dolled england around regarding a constituent part of the uk? |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 3, 2023 10:53:17 GMT
That's right. 'N.Ireland was the price of Brexit'. Varadkar is an emotional amateur who got caught up in a bit of Irish triumphalism with Barnier by his side. At the time getting one over the British was what the Protocol and EU rhetoric was all about. He was Brussel's useful idiot. but the english hero boris johnson caved into him and the EU. ?Or are you telling me wee ireland rag dolled england around regarding a constituent part of the uk? And yet the Protocol hasn't been implemented in full Tommy McRobinson. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 3, 2023 11:37:05 GMT
Statement of the obvious. But Varadkar knows perfectly well that the NI protocol was MEANT to cause problems. The idea was to split off NI from Great Britain and lead to a united Ireland. the protocol wont be the cause of a united ireland. Irrespective of the wrongs of partitioning a country the british ruled as one , with only two of the six counties having a large unionist majority back in the twenties , the fact of the mater is the 6 counties have been moving slowly but surely towards a nationalist majority since the creation of the sectarian apartheid state.
We saw that in 2017 alone , when stormont for the first time in nearly hundred years lost its unionist majority.
The majority in northern ireland once again voted to stay in the EU , and johnson could have refused to agree to the protocol , but didnt so here we are.
You have to accept brexit has caused massive divisions within not just your own country england , but within the uk multi national state. Im not sure how this can be healed anytime soon , but dragging northern ireland out with scotland against the majority will will do nothing more than hasten the end of the union.
In the last election to stormont , and i appreciate they arent sitting due to the DUP throwing rattles out prams because o neil would be first minister , the majority voted for pro protocol candidates in a devolved election.
Are you suggesting the democratic view of the northern irish majority be overtruned anti democratically to appease a minority in northern ireland , or the few people who care in your own country?
That is what the Good Friday Agreement is expressly designed to do.. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 3, 2023 13:57:21 GMT
No shit Sherlock - now if only someone had been telling you that for the past 2 years.... Do companies exporting from Britain to NI have to jump through more hoops than those exporting from Britain to the EU? |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jan 3, 2023 14:11:14 GMT
It's a pity Varadkar can't tell the truth. The EU didn't make a mistake when it forced the NI protocol on the UK. It was entirely deliberate - and so far it's working.
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 3, 2023 14:14:46 GMT
It's a pity Varadkar can't tell the truth. The EU didn't make a mistake when it forced the NI protocol on the UK. It was entirely deliberate - and so far it's working. Of course, the EU deliberately imposed the Protocol. Who ever said they didn't? They made it a condition of a trade deal. Your statement that it was 'entirely deliberate' is hardly news, Snugs. |
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