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Post by Steve on Dec 28, 2022 13:57:48 GMT
Not rife but terrorism by extreme Islamists is the largest of several current UK terrorism threats we have. Acting immorally and worse as their recruiting sergeant is not the way to address that. When they do strike it results in more support for the religion of peace . . .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2022 14:22:15 GMT
When they do strike it results in more support for the religion of peace . . .
And your evidence for that is just what?
The country was also going through an educational program on Ramadam, Halal and how not to be a filthy Islamophobe bigot.
Islam has established itself and continues to grow in the UK.
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Post by Steve on Dec 28, 2022 14:28:48 GMT
Or in short you have no evidence at all. It was just a piece of hate inciting fiction you posted
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2022 14:32:34 GMT
Or in short you have no evidence at all. It was just a piece of hate inciting fiction you posted You're simply unable to process anything other than your own view, which is why you're this predictable. It's OK, I wasn't trying to convince you. I was just stating the facts on how those terrorist attacks boosted Islam, and to some extent, Islamism, in the UK. You may now go back to defending Islam and dismissing other people's posts as a thought-crime.  |
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Post by see2 on Dec 28, 2022 15:10:37 GMT
None so blind as they that will not see. You posted 'Muslims don't tend to take any notice of opposition that only seems to brings them closer together'broad brush condemnation as you full well know See2. "don't tend to" is subtlety different to 'tend not to'. tend not to / don't tend to | UsingEnglish.com ESL Forum There is a subtle difference, although that is only important if the writer/speaker intended the difference. I believe that the careful way in which my post was put together clearly indicates the reason I chose the words I used. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 28, 2022 16:33:39 GMT
Or in short you have no evidence at all. It was just a piece of hate inciting fiction you posted You're simply unable to process anything other than your own view, which is why you're this predictable. It's OK, I wasn't trying to convince you. I was just stating the facts on how those terrorist attacks boosted Islam, and to some extent, Islamism, in the UK. You may now go back to defending Islam and dismissing other people's posts as a thought-crime. If you were 'stating the facts' you'd have been able to evidence that 'When they do strike it results in more support for the religion of peace' but you haven't remotely done so instead trying to obscure the point waffling about all sorts of other grievances you have. So I'm fully able to process something other than my initial view IF that is it either looks plausible or is evidenced. In this case it's neither. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 28, 2022 16:35:27 GMT
None so blind as they that will not see. You posted 'Muslims don't tend to take any notice of opposition that only seems to brings them closer together'broad brush condemnation as you full well know See2. "don't tend to" is subtlety different to 'tend not to'. tend not to / don't tend to | UsingEnglish.com ESL Forum There is a subtle difference, although that is only important if the writer/speaker intended the difference. I believe that the careful way in which my post was put together clearly indicates the reason I chose the words I used. At best V poor English. If you meant some muslims tend to then you should have said so. Hard not to suspect your omission of the word 'some' was deliberate. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2022 17:05:42 GMT
You're simply unable to process anything other than your own view, which is why you're this predictable. It's OK, I wasn't trying to convince you. I was just stating the facts on how those terrorist attacks boosted Islam, and to some extent, Islamism, in the UK. You may now go back to defending Islam and dismissing other people's posts as a thought-crime. If you were 'stating the facts' you'd have been able to evidence that 'When they do strike it results in more support for the religion of peace' but you haven't remotely done so instead trying to obscure the point waffling about all sorts of other grievances you have. So I'm fully able to process something other than my initial view IF that is it either looks plausible or is evidenced. In this case it's neither. I did, and I verfied them with reasoned arguments and sources, which you outright dismissed as hate despite there being no emotional attachment. I didn't post any grievances and your accusation is just another figment of your predictable imagination, which you depend on to attack the poster instead of the argument. There was no waffle except for what you have posted as a response. Everything I posted is true, these things did happen.
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Post by Steve on Dec 28, 2022 17:21:18 GMT
Look you clearly did not Posting this: 'This, as well as government funded Muslim projects in the name of undermining radicalism within Islam in the UK. This even led to Islamist organisations who wanted to basically destroy the state receiving tax-payers money: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6427369/Islamists-who-want-to-destroy-the-state-get-100000-funding.html
The country was also going through an educational program on Ramadam, Halal and how not to be a filthy Islamophobe bigot.
Islam has established itself and continues to grow in the UK.'
Is in no way the requested evidence for your 'When they do strike it results in more support for the religion of peace . . .'It doesn't even address the point |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2022 17:40:21 GMT
Islam has grown in this country and is considered the second largest religion. The government bent over backwards to support the "religion of peace" in the aftermath of those terrorist attacks. The media persistently "educated" the public on Ramadam, Halal and all that Jazz, whilst condemning anything that was critical of Islam as Islamophobic, which, as you know, is Haram. Despite the fact that the terrorists were motivated by Islamic scripture very few establishment political figures would even dare to say anything other than it had nothing to do with Islam, because Islam is the religion of peace. Schools were even having day trips to Mosques so they can see the religion of peace being, erm, peaceful. The point being is that the terrorist attacks gave Islam a boost in this country, whether it was coincidental or not. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 28, 2022 18:06:05 GMT
"don't tend to" is subtlety different to 'tend not to'. tend not to / don't tend to | UsingEnglish.com ESL Forum There is a subtle difference, although that is only important if the writer/speaker intended the difference. I believe that the careful way in which my post was put together clearly indicates the reason I chose the words I used. At best V poor English. If you meant some muslims tend to then you should have said so. Hard not to suspect your omission of the word 'some' was deliberate. You tend to take English too literally and this seems to impact your understanding of what people actually mean. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 28, 2022 19:57:29 GMT
At best V poor English. If you meant some muslims tend to then you should have said so. Hard not to suspect your omission of the word 'some' was deliberate. You tend to take English too literally and this seems to impact your understanding of what people actually mean. Oh I've known See2's islamophobic posts here and over there for a very long time and I understand exactly what he meant. And he was given the opportunity to correct what he literally wrote. But didn't. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 28, 2022 20:20:28 GMT
You tend to take English too literally and this seems to impact your understanding of what people actually mean. Oh I've known See2's islamophobic posts here and over there for a very long time and I understand exactly what he meant. And he was given the opportunity to correct what he literally wrote. But didn't. I think you missed the point of my post. Tend is a generalisation it is not an absolute, seems is an opinion and gives an impression from the speaker. Both together make it a very general opinion and some is not needed. It is empirical in nature. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 28, 2022 20:52:43 GMT
Oh I've known See2's islamophobic posts here and over there for a very long time and I understand exactly what he meant. And he was given the opportunity to correct what he literally wrote. But didn't. I think you missed the point of my post. Tend is a generalisation it is not an absolute, seems is an opinion and gives an impression from the speaker. Both together make it a very general opinion and some is not needed. It is empirical in nature. Actually 'tend' means 'to be disposed or inclined in action, operation, or effect to do something'
So for See2 to accuse all muslims of being disposed or inclined in action, operation, or effect to not take any notice of opposition. Was broad brush condemning. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 28, 2022 21:04:25 GMT
I think you missed the point of my post. Tend is a generalisation it is not an absolute, seems is an opinion and gives an impression from the speaker. Both together make it a very general opinion and some is not needed. It is empirical in nature. Actually 'tend' means 'to be disposed or inclined in action, operation, or effect to do something'
So for See2 to accuse all muslims of being disposed or inclined in action, operation, or effect to not take any notice of opposition. Was broad brush condemning. Depends where you look some say "regularly or frequently behave in a particular way or have a certain characteristic:" He did not however say all, you are reading all as the meaning and have put that in. There is a difference in saying all dogs can be trained and dogs can be trained. |
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