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Post by Steve on Dec 25, 2022 0:26:53 GMT
Too many syllables for you was it? Depends how many syllables you're talking about. However, I cant help noticing Steve, that as ever you are attacking the messenger rather than the message. Stephen may be your forum name, but I'm increasingly of the opinion your given name is more likely to be Muhammad, or Abdullah, something like that. Ma'a salama.  No Rouge my forum name is Steve, the clue being it being above the avatar. And it's Steve on account of that being my name. I see yet again you think throwing false accusations is some substitute for debate, it isn't. You posted absurd hyperbole so I called it as such. Do you need someone to explain to you what hyperbole is? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 25, 2022 0:43:42 GMT
Depends how many syllables you're talking about. However, I cant help noticing Steve, that as ever you are attacking the messenger rather than the message. Stephen may be your forum name, but I'm increasingly of the opinion your given name is more likely to be Muhammad, or Abdullah, something like that. Ma'a salama. No Rouge my forum name is Steve, the clue being it being above the avatar. And it's Steve on account of that being my name. I see yet again you think throwing false accusations is some substitute for debate, it isn't. You posted absurd hyperbole so I called it as such. Yes please Mo... |
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Post by Steve on Dec 25, 2022 0:47:26 GMT
Hyperbole is wild exaggeration
You supposed an 89 year old woman has contributed all her life. Well she will have retired at 60 and been to school until 16 so in fact she's contributed only half her life
You also supposed 'The government are spending £billions of our money on people who should not be in this country and have no right to be here' even though you know full well some of them do.
We know not why that woman was found in such straits but we can be pretty sure she wouldn't have swapped her home for dossing down in a tent at Manston
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 25, 2022 1:00:29 GMT
The demands for asylum seeker accommodation standards don’t surprise me. Back in 2006 I was one of three self employed businessmen staying at a B&B in Guildford when the owner asked me if I thought a message left on her answerphone was some sort of sick joke.
In short it was the Home Office Immigration and Asylum Service seeking places to house ‘migrants’ who had entered the UK and whose cases were being considered. They were looking for B&B accommodation and paying up to twice what we businessmen were being charged but the property would need to be inspected as the home office demanded ‘a rather high standard’ for migrants it sought to house. Apparently many claimed to have family groups in nearby towns and they wished to keep these people in contact.
It wasn’t what they wanted that grated, it was what they were happy to pay to get it and the general arrogance in the tone.
As I said, this woman in her late 60s who had run a B&B from her home for decades for what she described as ‘business gentlemen’ meaning all sorts from travelling salesmen up was actually having a hard time believing this was real. The next day she had me ring them up to say she was not remotely interested as to take their offer meant she would have to stop offering accommodation to the gentlemen in business and commercial travellers whose b&b needs she had provided for many decades.
They were not happy to hear that to be honest. And that made me a little irate.
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 25, 2022 2:05:25 GMT
Hyperbole is wild exaggeration You supposed an 89 year old woman has contributed all her life. Well she will have retired at 60 and been to school until 16 so in fact she's contributed only half her life You also supposed 'The government are spending £billions of our money on people who should not be in this country and have no right to be here' even though you know full well some of them do. We know not why that woman was found in such straits but we can be pretty sure she wouldn't have swapped her home for dossing down in a tent at Manston Get a grip man, what a shit tip of assumption. If she's 89 she will have left school before 16 that's for sure, and I'd like to see your evidence that she retired at 60. She was born in 1933 so lived through the war, in London, and lived with rationing until the 1950's. Like people of her generation she will have a 'get on with it' attitude, she will be reluctant to ask for help and embarrassed to claim benefits. Compare that to, I wont go into individual minority groups, people who today feel they are owed benefits. People who should not be in this country yet the government are shelling out £7 million a day on hotels to ensure illegal scroungers and criminals are warm and well fed this Christmas. You need to get a fuckin grip. Ho ho ho. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 25, 2022 11:21:15 GMT
I hope Santa brought you a dictionary so you can look up words like Hyperbole before you react to others using them
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Dec 28, 2022 13:48:01 GMT
I lived in a Welsh village in the 80s where the locals took good care of their elderly. One day I got into conversation with another Englishman who had settled there ... who was "well off". He made a startling comment about "Welsh peasants".
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Post by besoeker3 on Dec 28, 2022 13:56:58 GMT
I lived in a Welsh village in the 80s where the locals took good care of their elderly. One day I got into conversation with another Englishman who had settled there ... who was "well off". He made a startling comment about "Welsh peasants". He he going for the Scots next ?? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 28, 2022 14:12:12 GMT
I lived in a Welsh village in the 80s where the locals took good care of their elderly. One day I got into conversation with another Englishman who had settled there ... who was "well off". He made a startling comment about "Welsh peasants". My uncle & aunt moved from Shropshire to SW Wales in 1960, they bought a farm. They retired from farming in the early 2000's but still lived on the farm. Some of the locals still regarded them as outsiders. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Dec 28, 2022 14:51:08 GMT
I lived in a Welsh village in the 80s where the locals took good care of their elderly. One day I got into conversation with another Englishman who had settled there ... who was "well off". He made a startling comment about "Welsh peasants". My uncle & aunt moved from Shropshire to SW Wales in 1960, they bought a farm. They retired from farming in the early 2000's but still lived on the farm. Some of the locals still regarded them as outsiders. I have seen something similar. A colleague and I had a project in a Cardiff steel mill. I am a Scot and my colleague was Irish. We went for lunch to a local pub. As soon as we went in the locals immediately switched to Welsh language. Antisocial or what............. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2022 19:27:35 GMT
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Post by Steve on Dec 28, 2022 22:21:59 GMT
Good spot
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 29, 2022 0:33:48 GMT
Apologies, missed this. I see, so should I be less sympathetic to that 89 year old woman? Or more sympathetic to the thousands of illegals living in hotels at tax payers expense? |
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Post by walterpaisley on Dec 29, 2022 8:25:09 GMT
Maybe you should just try what most people are able to do, and realise that the two events aren't linked. They are mutually exclusive.
It is completely okay to feel sympathy for both the elderly AND asylum seekers at the same time.
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 29, 2022 10:03:47 GMT
Except that the money does not come out of a 'mutually exclusive' pot. Had the government not elected to take in hundreds of thousands of international waifs and strays the multiple billions it is lavishing on their care and attention - nobody knows how many in truth, but it can hardly be less than ten - the funds could be used instead to keep OAPs warm and comfortable over the winter, just as they presently feel obliged to do for all these foreigners.
The real upside here is that it would present a heaven-sent opportunity for the doubleplusgoodthinkful to take over the role of attending to needy asylum seekers etc (those that haven't already given expression to their entrepreneural leanings in motor-trading or recreational pharmaceuticals, say) resulting in lashings of feelings of lovely warm gushiness all round.
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