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Post by jonksy on Dec 22, 2022 20:27:21 GMT
And? Who can prescribe tablets to a person who has a headache or admisnster pain releif to patients off their own back whitout consulting a dotcor or consultant? So just to clarify, are you trying to allege that she has done nothing wrong? She has done fuck all wrong. And only a stupid idiot would think otherwise.
The only thing she is guilty off is beng more easy on the eye and is hetrosexual which is more that can be said for many of the fat idiots who run the NHS
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 22, 2022 20:33:38 GMT
Really?
Working in council tax and housing benefit, if I took a tenner from someone's account because I'd left my wallet at home, and then my employer found out, I would expect to face a disciplinary for gross misconduct and a possible police investigation.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 22, 2022 20:35:00 GMT
Really? Working in council tax and housing benefit, if I took a tenner from someone's account because I'd left my wallet at home, and then my employer found out, I would expect to face a disciplinary for gross misconduct and a possible police investigation. Now what are you on about? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 22, 2022 21:55:32 GMT
Really? Working in council tax and housing benefit, if I took a tenner from someone's account because I'd left my wallet at home, and then my employer found out, I would expect to face a disciplinary for gross misconduct and a possible police investigation. Now what are you on about? I'm saying if she hadn't done anything wrong, she wouldn't have pleaded guilty. It isn't rocket science. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 22, 2022 22:59:09 GMT
Now what are you on about? I'm saying if she hadn't done anything wrong, she wouldn't have pleaded guilty. It isn't rocket science. Thank god for that it would realy tie up some. Are you suggesting she stole from a patient? Because that was what you were insinuating with your own way off target scenario. So what would you state then if you took a couple of tablets to cure your own headache? Guilty or not guilty? Or would you deny it? |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 22, 2022 23:00:56 GMT
Really? Working in council tax and housing benefit, if I took a tenner from someone's account because I'd left my wallet at home, and then my employer found out, I would expect to face a disciplinary for gross misconduct and a possible police investigation. Jeez! She admitted taking a couple of Paracetamol, probably not worth more than 6p. |
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Post by jaydee on Dec 23, 2022 8:25:58 GMT
I'm saying if she hadn't done anything wrong, she wouldn't have pleaded guilty. It isn't rocket science. Thank god for that it would realy tie up some. Are you suggesting she stole from a patient? Because that was what you were insinuating with your own way off target scenario. So what would you state then if you took a couple of tablets to cure your own headache? Guilty or not guilty? Or would you deny it? Ah Johnsky Clarkson. The educated man with working brain cells. Yes she did steal from a patient. That is what NHS drugs are for. What would you do if a bogy a workmen stole 2 bags of cement or two trowels out of your tool bag. Give them a hug. More to the point what would you plead. You are the self appointed lawyer. I am not very clued up on English law. But could I suggest you go and read the definition in more detail. Before you rant drivel. . Appropriating property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.. In England, the second she swallowed them. Crime Complete. In Scotland it is simple. It is under common law and the second you put your hands on it. You have deprived the owner of its use. . That is beyond you. Then read the control of drugs act. And you still have not explained how your brain worked out because of this incident. How there is not a shortage of nurses. That is what you said. Despite all asunder in the know. Conclude the nurses are understaffed in the thousands. Ranging from 9.4% to 17% in London and major cities. But you are the expert and know better. Link please. ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/34706/edit |
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 23, 2022 8:33:32 GMT
I haven't read the article? Even the headlines refers to both. 😂 And? Who can prescribe tablets to a person who has a headache or admisnster pain releif to patients off their own back whitout consulting a dotcor or consultant? A pharmacist with a prescribing certificate or a nurse practitioner with similar. While being treated for cellulitis in my lower leg I was supplied with a prescription only cream containing a nerve toxin painkiller based on military grade capsicum pepper extract by my pharmacist, when the prescription only grade co codamol prescribed by the nurse practitioner at my GP surgery wasn’t working at te highest dose allowed by their discretion (way, way over what it says in the packet). At the same time the GP had prescribed the antibiotics so I was in fact receiving prescribed drugs from all three allowed routes. Knowing this to be the case I suspect the cctv was there to catch self medicators. Such cases are real and the obvious route to addiction in the prescribing professions. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 23, 2022 8:39:14 GMT
And? Who can prescribe tablets to a person who has a headache or admisnster pain releif to patients off their own back whitout consulting a dotcor or consultant? A pharmacist with a prescribing certificate or a nurse practitioner with similar. While being treated for cellulitis in my lower leg I was supplied with a prescription only cream containing a nerve toxin painkiller based on military grade capsicum pepper extract by my pharmacist, when the prescription only grade co codamol prescribed by the nurse practitioner at my GP surgery wasn’t working at te highest dose allowed by their discretion (way, way over what it says in the packet). At the same time the GP had prescribed the antibiotics so I was in fact receiving prescribed drugs from all three allowed routes. Knowing this to be the case I suspect the cctv was there to catch self medicators. Such cases are real and the obvious route to addiction in the prescribing professions. As I was saying, we only have half a story and she is obviously taking the fall. Bad management most likely with some self medicating thrown in. |
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Post by Handyman on Dec 23, 2022 10:08:43 GMT
Every item of medication delivered to a Chemist or Hospital Pharmacy is itemised and logged, every item of medication of it issued to a patient is also logged and recorded who got what and how much, in order that the Doctor responsible for each patient knows if they no longer need medication, or change of medication or a lower or higher dose
As stated in the media it showed that medication was unaccounted for a serious problem, was it bad record keeping by the Nursing Staff that actually give each patient the allotted medication the Doctor had prescribed or was medication being stolen.?
As we now know they were so concerned they called the Police in to investigate and covert CCTV was installed, that is how this Nurse was caught red handed as they say, stealing a Co-codamol tablet and a Paracetamol tablet.
My local local Chemist and even supermarkets will only sell you a limited amount of Paracetamol at anyone time, as for Co-codamol Prescription only.
She knew what she did was wrong that is why she put her hands up and pleaded guilty, it matters not if it was only two tablets or a whole packet straightforward Theft of NHS medication paid for by taxpayers money.
Down to her stupidity
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 23, 2022 10:23:44 GMT
On the scale of things this is a drop in the ocean. The NHS loses on average £1.29bn a YEAR in fraud. Very little of it if any is due to nicking a few headache tablets. Dentists alone account for £126.1 million, opticians £79 million, GP surgeries £88 million, £111 million local pharmacies... the list goes on. Remind me again, when was the last time you heard of a Dentist, GP, optician, or pharmacist being brought before the courts and charged with fraud? This nurse was a sitting duck, who in a moment of bad judgment dared to help herself to a couple of pain killers. COME ON FOLKS, let's get real and let's put it in to prospective. www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6251751/Fraud-costs-NHS-1-29bn-YEAR-report-reveals.html |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 23, 2022 10:34:52 GMT
On the scale of things this is a drop in the ocean. The NHS loses on average £1.29bn a YEAR in fraud. Very little of it if any is due to nicking a few headache tablets. Dentists alone account for £126.1 million, opticians £79 million, GP surgeries £88 million, £111 million local pharmacies... the list goes on. Remind me again, when was the last time you heard of a Dentist, GP, optician, or pharmacist being brought before the courts and charged with fraud? This nurse was a sitting duck, who in a moment of bad judgment dared to help herself to a couple of pain killers. COME ON FOLKS, let's get real and let's put it in to prospective. www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6251751/Fraud-costs-NHS-1-29bn-YEAR-report-reveals.htmlWe took a while getting there, but it seems everything the management is in charge of, relies on fraud. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 23, 2022 10:46:00 GMT
On the scale of things this is a drop in the ocean. The NHS loses on average £1.29bn a YEAR in fraud. Very little of it if any is due to nicking a few headache tablets. Dentists alone account for £126.1 million, opticians £79 million, GP surgeries £88 million, £111 million local pharmacies... the list goes on. Remind me again, when was the last time you heard of a Dentist, GP, optician, or pharmacist being brought before the courts and charged with fraud? This nurse was a sitting duck, who in a moment of bad judgment dared to help herself to a couple of pain killers. COME ON FOLKS, let's get real and let's put it in to prospective. www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6251751/Fraud-costs-NHS-1-29bn-YEAR-report-reveals.htmlWe took a while getting there, but it seems everything the management is in charge of, relies on fraud. It's clear the management can't be arsed trying to investigate, GPs, opticians, dentists, and pharmacists for fraud, plus the fact they don't want to be striking off GPs, opticians, dentists and pharmacists, they pick on the nurse who hasn't got the clout or money to pay big time lawyers to defend her. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 23, 2022 11:04:50 GMT
On the scale of things this is a drop in the ocean. The NHS loses on average £1.29bn a YEAR in fraud. Very little of it if any is due to nicking a few headache tablets. Dentists alone account for £126.1 million, opticians £79 million, GP surgeries £88 million, £111 million local pharmacies... the list goes on. Remind me again, when was the last time you heard of a Dentist, GP, optician, or pharmacist being brought before the courts and charged with fraud? This nurse was a sitting duck, who in a moment of bad judgment dared to help herself to a couple of pain killers. COME ON FOLKS, let's get real and let's put it in to prospective. www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6251751/Fraud-costs-NHS-1-29bn-YEAR-report-reveals.htmlDoes anyone really believe she only stole two tablets? Does anyone really believe that wilful violation of procedures for control of opiates is a minor matter? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 23, 2022 11:22:18 GMT
On the scale of things this is a drop in the ocean. The NHS loses on average £1.29bn a YEAR in fraud. Very little of it if any is due to nicking a few headache tablets. Dentists alone account for £126.1 million, opticians £79 million, GP surgeries £88 million, £111 million local pharmacies... the list goes on. Remind me again, when was the last time you heard of a Dentist, GP, optician, or pharmacist being brought before the courts and charged with fraud? This nurse was a sitting duck, who in a moment of bad judgment dared to help herself to a couple of pain killers. COME ON FOLKS, let's get real and let's put it in to prospective. www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6251751/Fraud-costs-NHS-1-29bn-YEAR-report-reveals.htmlDoes anyone really believe she only stole two tablets? Does anyone really believe that wilful violation of procedures for control of opiates is a minor matter? LOL, oh my aching sides; " wilful violation of procedures for control of opiates" Steve, remove the pole before sitting down. It has already been established that control procedures were lax and ignored by many members of staff. This does not excuse the fact she took two tablets, which contrary to your alarmist summing up is not crime of the century. But it does bring into question the competence of managers who's job it is to police and and enforce such procedures. |
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