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Post by zanygame on Dec 31, 2022 18:56:00 GMT
Almost certainly I'm not retired yet. But I'm sure you do your bit for charity as do most folk who can afford to. How do you know I can afford to ? I don't, that's why I said "who can afford to" apologies if my sentence construction was poor. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 31, 2022 18:57:59 GMT
How do you know I can afford to ? I don't, that's why I said "who can afford to" apologies if my sentence construction was poor. It did allude to me being able to afford it . I probably aren’t able to contribute as much as a company director who employs over 100 people though. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 31, 2022 18:59:38 GMT
I offered the paperclips to demonstrate how tiny your contribution was. Anyway rather than just state 'waste' you chose the stereotypical "diversity manager" even though you have no idea how much that would save nor whether they do an essential job or not. As you have no idea whether your paperclip claim was comparable to mine. Whats your point ? Maybe we need to make more cuts or find some more money to finance the study. You need to read the post you replied to . Correct. It was sarcasm, not a genuine suggestion. Put purely to demonstrate what little effect your idea would have on saving the NHS money. Which study? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 31, 2022 19:00:58 GMT
Doesn’t say how many shifts per week. She says she needs to work extra shifts then says she works a 16 hour day. Doesn’t add up tbh. My daughter in law is a ward sister in scbu. She regularly works a 12 hour day followed by a couple of 12 hour nights. How anyone is supposed to adjust their body clock to that and perform well I don't know. And 12 hour shifts are never less than 13 or 14 hours due to staff shortages. The nurses worked 12 hour shifts when I worked in a hospital. They never seemed to work more than 12 hours because there were two shifts of 12 hours . Quite a few industries work rolling 12 hour shifts . |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 31, 2022 19:01:08 GMT
I don't, that's why I said "who can afford to" apologies if my sentence construction was poor. It did allude to me being able to afford it . I probably aren’t able to contribute as much as a company director who employs over 100 people though. Each of us does what we can and that's all that matters.  |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 31, 2022 19:01:44 GMT
As you have no idea whether your paperclip claim was comparable to mine. Whats your point ? Maybe we need to make more cuts or find some more money to finance the study. You need to read the post you replied to . Correct. It was sarcasm, not a genuine suggestion. Put purely to demonstrate what little effect your idea would have on saving the NHS money. Which study? It hasn’t happened . |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 31, 2022 19:02:48 GMT
It did allude to me being able to afford it . I probably aren’t able to contribute as much as a company director who employs over 100 people though. Each of us does what we can and that's all that matters. Not for some . Some want to make pensioners give up part of their pension and benefits because they are too rich to deserve them. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 31, 2022 19:06:56 GMT
My daughter in law is a ward sister in scbu. She regularly works a 12 hour day followed by a couple of 12 hour nights. How anyone is supposed to adjust their body clock to that and perform well I don't know. And 12 hour shifts are never less than 13 or 14 hours due to staff shortages. The nurses worked 12 hour shifts when I worked in a hospital. They never seemed to work more than 12 hours because there were two shifts of 12 hours . Quite a few industries work rolling 12 hour shifts . When my wife worked in hospital they used to do 10 hours followed by 23 hours on call. I remember several times when she was so tired she couldn't drive home and I'd go and fetch her. Ahh the good old days. A struggling NHS is not a new creation. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 31, 2022 19:08:19 GMT
Each of us does what we can and that's all that matters. Not for some . Some want to make pensioners give up part of their pension and benefits because they are too rich to deserve them. Isn't that on another thread? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 31, 2022 19:14:12 GMT
Not for some . Some want to make pensioners give up part of their pension and benefits because they are too rich to deserve them. Isn't that on another thread? Yes . Don’t mention it again . |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 31, 2022 19:17:04 GMT
The nurses worked 12 hour shifts when I worked in a hospital. They never seemed to work more than 12 hours because there were two shifts of 12 hours . Quite a few industries work rolling 12 hour shifts . When my wife worked in hospital they used to do 10 hours followed by 23 hours on call. I remember several times when she was so tired she couldn't drive home and I'd go and fetch her. Ahh the good old days. A struggling NHS is not a new creation. Hence my point about reassessing it . I don’t see the answer in blithely throwing money into it. Its been a political weapon cum Golden calf for too long . |
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Post by om15 on Dec 31, 2022 19:25:51 GMT
No they are not, they are manning picket lines.
I needed some medical advice, my NHS surgery is manned by rude, ill educated uncouth women whose aim it is to prevent any form of medical care being dispensed.
I booked an on line private GP appointment and saw a charming and helpful doctor this morning (saturday) for a 30 minute consultation who provided me with all I needed. His fee was less than my chimney sweep charges for an annual clean of my sitting room chimney.
The NHS is staffed by lazy idle leftie spoungers, the sooner it is dismantled and replaced by a functioning health care system the better it will be.
But we can't do that because it is free, and something however rubbish that is free must be better than paying for a decent service.
It is our fault, and again demonstrates how our society has been brainwashed into its own downfall.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 31, 2022 19:37:24 GMT
No they are not, they are manning picket lines. I needed some medical advice, my NHS surgery is manned by rude, ill educated uncouth women whose aim it is to prevent any form of medical care being dispensed. I booked an on line private GP appointment and saw a charming and helpful doctor this morning (saturday) for a 30 minute consultation who provided me with all I needed. His fee was less than my chimney sweep charges for an annual clean of my sitting room chimney. The NHS is staffed by lazy idle leftie spoungers, the sooner it is dismantled and replaced by a functioning health care system the better it will be. But we can't do that because it is free, and something however rubbish that is free must be better than paying for a decent service. It is our fault, and again demonstrates how our society has been brainwashed into its own downfall. A little harsh perhaps but I do think that clapping the NHS was a mistake and viewing NHS staff as heroes is an even bigger mistake . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 31, 2022 19:38:31 GMT
Doesn’t say how many shifts per week. She says she needs to work extra shifts then says she works a 16 hour day. Doesn’t add up tbh. My daughter in law is a ward sister in scbu. She regularly works a 12 hour day followed by a couple of 12 hour nights. How anyone is supposed to adjust their body clock to that and perform well I don't know. And 12 hour shifts are never less than 13 or 14 hours due to staff shortages. But, as usual, you don't know much Zany.
The 12 hour shift pattern (common in NHS, emergency services and many more) was the best I ever worked.
5 days on, 5 days off. Lovely. I wish I could go back to that.
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Post by zanygame on Dec 31, 2022 19:47:08 GMT
When my wife worked in hospital they used to do 10 hours followed by 23 hours on call. I remember several times when she was so tired she couldn't drive home and I'd go and fetch her. Ahh the good old days. A struggling NHS is not a new creation. Hence my point about reassessing it . I don’t see the answer in blithely throwing money into it. Its been a political weapon cum Golden calf for too long . Here we disagree. My view is that we need to wake up and realise that all the enormous leaps forward in medicine over the last decade cost money and stop pretending hey can be paid for by cost saving or fiddling with minor taxes. |
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