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Post by Steve on Dec 20, 2022 23:39:07 GMT
Ah classic Jonksy bullshit ^. I have no beloved trade unions, you however have spent years praising and defending your Tory chums that have brought this crisis so don't pretend now you're not part of it. As for the dispute, it takes two to have a dispute and on one side we have your idiot Tory chums who thought they could erode real terms NHS salaries year after year after year and ignore the increasing staffing crises and then give us Brexit to cut off the supply of EU health workers that were papering over the cracks. Usual madcap lefty supporting twaddle we have heard a million times before. The NHS was awash with fucking staff during covid. They were inundated with retired NHS staff offering their services for FREE. And seems you think they should keep offering such for free to bail out your Tory chums. Does it not dawn on you that Covid was a crisis for the nation and this dispute is about a crisis for the government? |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 20, 2022 23:43:53 GMT
Usual madcap lefty supporting twaddle we have heard a million times before. The NHS was awash with fucking staff during covid. They were inundated with retired NHS staff offering their services for FREE. And seems you think they should keep offering such for free to bail out your Tory chums. Does it not dawn on you that Covid was a crisis for the nation and this dispute is about a crisis for the government? Yet again another of your famouse strawmen. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 20, 2022 23:46:24 GMT
Well you were the one that posted suggesting how people volunteering was a solution that could be used over and over. And you are in pathetic denial of the facts, this government has been ripping off NHS works for over 10 years and then cut off the supply of EU health and care workers. A reminder of your dribble . . . The NHS was awash with fucking staff during covid. They were inundated with retired NHS staff offering their services for FREE. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 20, 2022 23:56:03 GMT
Well you were the one that posted suggesting how people volunteering was a solution that could be used over and over. And you are in pathetic denial of the facts, this government has been ripping off NHS works for over 10 years and then cut off the supply of EU health and care workers. A reminder of your dribble . . . The NHS was awash with fucking staff during covid. They were inundated with retired NHS staff offering their services for FREE. No a reminder of your usual BS. Thousands of ex NHS staff offered their services but the good old NHS mismanagement declind their kind offers. How kind am I? Google Bring Back Staff scheme. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 21, 2022 8:46:29 GMT
The nurses in our County Hospital are not striking - don't know why we are exempt.. Didn't reach quorum. Same here in Coventry. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 21, 2022 12:24:15 GMT
Well you were the one that posted suggesting how people volunteering was a solution that could be used over and over. And you are in pathetic denial of the facts, this government has been ripping off NHS works for over 10 years and then cut off the supply of EU health and care workers. A reminder of your dribble No a reminder of your usual BS. Thousands of ex NHS staff offered their services but the good old NHS mismanagement declind their kind offers. How kind am I? Google Bring Back Staff scheme. Do keep digging All you are saying is the NHS could solve its chronic staffing issues by asking for volunteers to come back and work for free because there's a crisis . . . . . . in Tory leaders credibility. Well best of luck getting anyone to believe that scheme would work Even Baldrick wouldn't see that as a cunning plan. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 21, 2022 13:21:23 GMT
Ah classic Jonksy bullshit ^. I have no beloved trade unions, you however have spent years praising and defending your Tory chums that have brought this crisis so don't pretend now you're not part of it. As for the dispute, it takes two to have a dispute and on one side we have your idiot Tory chums who thought they could erode real terms NHS salaries year after year after year and ignore the increasing staffing crises and then give us Brexit to cut off the supply of EU health workers that were papering over the cracks. Well one could say that the idiots who think that importing NHS staff from abroad is a good thing are responsible for undermining an infrastructure to train NHS staff in the UK. |
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Post by jaydee on Dec 21, 2022 13:36:58 GMT
Nope they can't lay bricks....Unlike some we cannot wing it. And as for the medical staff who want to strike they are a waste of space. Many nurses and other staff DO NOT want to strike and are pushed into it by those who do. So sack the lot of them and then take them back on zero hour contracts and no index linked pensions or perks. Those who do not agree to that will find they are out in the wilderness with no job prospects. They think they can just bugger off elswhere...Boy have I got news for them. Ah Jonksy Clarkson. Boy have I got news for you. Any clown can lay bricks. Evn NHS staff on the days off. Half the bogus workman in the country are brickies. That is why unlike real tradesmen, so few are caught. Its as easy as that. And can you tell me how people are a waste of space because they want to withdraw their labour. And if staff do not want to strike they do not. So once they are all sacked. You going to perform the NHS tasks. You should act as a stand in for the guy in the link. You are him to a T. www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnlSTb1GKCI&ab_channel=HitlerRantsParodies |
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Post by Steve on Dec 21, 2022 14:04:46 GMT
Ah classic Jonksy bullshit ^. I have no beloved trade unions, you however have spent years praising and defending your Tory chums that have brought this crisis so don't pretend now you're not part of it. As for the dispute, it takes two to have a dispute and on one side we have your idiot Tory chums who thought they could erode real terms NHS salaries year after year after year and ignore the increasing staffing crises and then give us Brexit to cut off the supply of EU health workers that were papering over the cracks. Well one could say that the idiots who think that importing NHS staff from abroad is a good thing are responsible for undermining an infrastructure to train NHS staff in the UK. Yep, it wasn't a good thing but turning off the supply without solving the UK sourcing first was dumb dumb dumb by the government. Using EU workers was always undermining the UK wage market and the government should have known that meant it would have to increase NHS and care sector wages when that undermining was removed. But it's been in denial hoping it could get away with pretending it had an independent review body - it hasn't. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 21, 2022 14:06:29 GMT
Nope they can't lay bricks....Unlike some we cannot wing it. And as for the medical staff who want to strike they are a waste of space. Many nurses and other staff DO NOT want to strike and are pushed into it by those who do. So sack the lot of them and then take them back on zero hour contracts and no index linked pensions or perks. Those who do not agree to that will find they are out in the wilderness with no job prospects. They think they can just bugger off elswhere...Boy have I got news for them. Ah Jonksy Clarkson. Boy have I got news for you. Any clown can lay bricks. . . . Badly and slowly Doing it right and fast is a skill and watching a good bricklaying team at work is almost an art form. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 21, 2022 16:29:14 GMT
Well one could say that the idiots who think that importing NHS staff from abroad is a good thing are responsible for undermining an infrastructure to train NHS staff in the UK. Yep, it wasn't a good thing but turning off the supply without solving the UK sourcing first was dumb dumb dumb by the government. Using EU workers was always undermining the UK wage market and the government should have known that meant it would have to increase NHS and care sector wages when that undermining was removed. But it's been in denial hoping it could get away with pretending it had an independent review body - it hasn't. It was and is a disaster. As long as we have uncontrolled migration there is no need to train domestically . Employers can cherry pick trained staff abroad. This was ignored by Europhiles whereas when the social abscess was lanced by Brexit it became a problem. Not one that had festered over time by uncontrolled EU migration but because Brexit stopped it. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 21, 2022 17:03:19 GMT
Just for the record I always said ending that mass economic migration through EU FoM was a red line and if we couldn't end it we would have to leave.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 21, 2022 18:22:23 GMT
Ah Jonksy Clarkson. Boy have I got news for you. Any clown can lay bricks. . . . Badly and slowly Doing it right and fast is a skill and watching a good bricklaying team at work is almost an art form. Wrong. You do not need to be a chef to cook. Why not do it fast and correct. . I built my wall in the front of my house some 50 years ago. It is on a main road. And it is still standing as solid as the day it was built. Not to mention a porch to the rear of my house and passed by building control. Try when the Doctor tells you as someone who is dying in front of you after a road accident, or whatever, to go and get x drug and inject 20mg into somebodies arse. You have seconds to react. You are dealing with nothing more than a Jeremy Clarkson and the one being the wasted space. All mouth and trousers. And coming from someone who works in one of the most dangerous industry in the world. I am glad he is not my boss. I can imagine him. Oh look boss I have cut my hand off in the mixer. Get back to work you pussy. Your woke. FFS. The world is full of heros. Self appointed |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 21, 2022 18:37:53 GMT
Badly and slowly Doing it right and fast is a skill and watching a good bricklaying team at work is almost an art form. Wrong. You do not need to be a chef to cook. Why not do it fast and correct. . I built my wall in the front of my house some 50 years ago. It is on a main road. And it is still standing as solid as the day it was built. Not to mention a porch to the rear of my house and passed by building control. Try when the Doctor tells you as someone who is dying in front of you after a road accident, ort whatever, to go and get x drug and inject 20mg into somebodies arse. You have seconds to react. You are dealing with nothing more than a Jeremy Clarkson and the one being the wasted space. All mouth and trousers. And coming from someone who works in one of the most dangerous industry in the world. I am glad he is not my boss. I can imagine him. Oh look boss I have cut my hand off in the mixer. Get back to work you pussy. Your woke. FFS. The world is full of heros. Self appointed Fortunately for many DIYers, quality of workmanship in respect of building walls is not the domain of building control. |
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Post by jaydee on Dec 21, 2022 18:54:11 GMT
Wrong. You do not need to be a chef to cook. Why not do it fast and correct. . I built my wall in the front of my house some 50 years ago. It is on a main road. And it is still standing as solid as the day it was built. Not to mention a porch to the rear of my house and passed by building control. Try when the Doctor tells you as someone who is dying in front of you after a road accident, ort whatever, to go and get x drug and inject 20mg into somebodies arse. You have seconds to react. You are dealing with nothing more than a Jeremy Clarkson and the one being the wasted space. All mouth and trousers. And coming from someone who works in one of the most dangerous industry in the world. I am glad he is not my boss. I can imagine him. Oh look boss I have cut my hand off in the mixer. Get back to work you pussy. Your woke. FFS. The world is full of heros. Self appointed Fortunately for many DIYers, quality of workmanship in respect of building walls is not the domain of building control. Neither is saving someone's life on a AandE platform, the domain of building control. I did not say my wall was under building control. I said it was still standing. Because it was built correctly. The porch I built at the same time is under building control and still standing. That was built correctly and to spec. And in terms of being treated as a result of serious injury. If you die. There will be no change in your condition. That's the difference as the author rants to do away with their pensions. And rants to sack em all. The strike is being orchestrated, by the Tory's . The enemy to hate yesterday was nurses. To day it is ambulance drivers. And guess what, it is working. If you are not a out and out fascist, your woke . The sad state of hate filled England. |
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